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2017-02-27 18:24:56
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) Hi Layl, it looks like you've bumped in to the issue that "topological naming" should help with
2017-02-27 18:26:29
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) the short version is that the surest way to avoid that issue is to avoid changes in history that affect topology (like the number/type of segments in sketches, etc)
2017-02-27 18:27:19
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) also, leaving all the dressup operations (fillet and chamfer) until last is usually a good idea
2017-02-27 18:27:57
Layl
I see
2017-02-27 18:29:21
Layl
ianrrees, but is there any way I could identify and fix an issue when this occurs?
2017-02-27 18:30:29
Layl
manual fixing isn't a huge issue, as long as I can do it
2017-02-27 18:30:40
Layl
sometimes I just need to make such a change up the chain
2017-02-27 18:30:49
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) it depends
2017-02-27 18:31:44
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) there is an "attach sketch to face" tool, I can't remember which version of FC it was added in but think it's been there a while.
2017-02-27 18:32:25
Layl
I did use that, it fixed the model
2017-02-27 18:32:45
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) however, you need to be quite careful that you're selecting the face in the correct version of your shape. So, you should turn off visibility of the newer versions of the shape, select the face, reattach with it
2017-02-27 18:32:50
Layl
However, there was one sketch that after using that seemed to prevent Recompute from happening and broke all adding of new sketches
2017-02-27 18:33:03
Layl
as in, I would add a new sketch and it would only ever be on the XY plane
2017-02-27 18:33:12
Layl
no matter what I did, it was only on that plane
2017-02-27 18:34:42
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) don't know, sorry. You might get better advice by sharing a file on the forum.
2017-02-27 18:35:13
Layl
it's fixed by now, I'll take a look at sharing it if I encounter it again
2017-02-27 18:35:31
Layl
it might just be a 0.17 bug, as I like to live on the edge so far that I constantly fall off it
2017-02-27 18:38:57
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) perhaps, but the topological naming work is still in progress I believe, so it's good to be aware of
2017-02-27 20:54:38
FreeCADBot2
(AjinkyaDahale) Hey, anyone compiling with OCC 7.1.0 that they compiled themselves? I got the source from the website and compiled it into a custom directory, and now I can't configure cmake for freecad to use this new OCC.
2017-02-27 21:12:14
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) @bblacey any idea why on Travis PR builds finish and direct builds not?
2017-02-27 21:12:39
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Do they save different cache?
2017-02-27 21:15:04
FreeCADBot2
(AjinkyaDahale) > Hey, anyone compiling with OCC 7.1.0 that they compiled themselves? I got the source from the website and compiled it into a custom directory, and now I can't configure cmake for freecad to use this new OCC.
2017-02-27 21:16:02
FreeCADBot2
(AjinkyaDahale) PS. I compiled OCC by using "cmake /path/to/fource" then "make" in the build dir
2017-02-27 21:18:43
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) @AjinkyaDahale I can't help you much but it is probably good to tell on what platform you are working on
2017-02-27 21:23:30
FreeCADBot2
(AjinkyaDahale) @sasobadovinac Ubuntu 16.04, but I'm almost certain that shouldn't matter since the files are stored under my home tree
2017-02-27 21:26:28
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) I think i have seen some discussions recently on the forum about occ 7.1 for the standard daily ppa builds
2017-02-27 21:29:54
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) @sasobadovinac - builds are timing out before they are able to create and upload a new ccache (chicken and an egg). A new cache is required on master because we merged a new .travis.yml into master and that triggers a cache refresh. PR builds are successful because the new cache was created this past weekend when the Travis infrastructure was lightly loaded. I have sent an email to the Travis folks earlier because, regardless of the
2017-02-27 21:29:54
FreeCADBot2
timeouts, the macOS infrastructure is running much slower than normal - I think they may increased the number of concurrent jobs to help deal with their capacity challenges.
2017-02-27 21:32:23
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Thanks for the info...
2017-02-27 21:33:24
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) There is not a code bug, this is purely jobs exceeding their time limits. Only the new Qt5 jobs are timing out but that is probably due to the fact that the ports-cache is still built for Qt4 so the Qt5 job has uninstall Qt4, shiboken and Pyside and then install the Qt5 version. That extra work probably puts us over the time limit. If I optimize the ports-cache for Qt5, then the Qt4 jobs will timeout. I’m not super excited about
2017-02-27 21:33:24
FreeCADBot2
ports-caches because that will be a bunch of work that will be obivated when we drop Qt4 and rebuild the cache for Qt5 so at this point, I am waiting to hear from the Travis guys.
2017-02-27 21:33:46
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) How about splitting the "make install" line in travis
2017-02-27 21:34:03
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) ?
2017-02-27 21:35:16
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) No special reason just to give us more data about how long different commands take to finish
2017-02-27 21:36:19
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) One could then make a new PR with everything after make disabled
2017-02-27 21:36:51
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) This would finish a build and create the cache
2017-02-27 21:37:30
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Then a new PR turning back everything on
2017-02-27 21:37:30
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Only until it the cache is invalidated again by re-enabling everything. What do shortened builds buy us?
2017-02-27 21:38:18
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Not a real solution indeed
2017-02-27 21:38:33
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) The second PR will invalidate the cache and we will be back where we are. The cache is identified by a has of the .travis.yml, the environment variable and the build matrix entries.
2017-02-27 21:38:49
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Except if we keep it that way permanently
2017-02-27 21:39:23
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Why? We use Travis to create the macOS builds and upload them to Github?
2017-02-27 21:39:29
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) I was looking at this for appveyor that is even slower
2017-02-27 21:39:37
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Yes
2017-02-27 21:40:45
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) IMHO, we need an actual solution instead of hacking/crippling the capabilities we have become accustomed to over the past year or so.
2017-02-27 21:40:48
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Idea was to do simplier / faster builds for standard pr / commit builds
2017-02-27 21:41:19
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) That still isn’t a solution for what we are seeing today.
2017-02-27 21:42:16
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) And then do cron jobs builds for things like deployment or more extended testing
2017-02-27 21:43:36
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/cron-jobs/
2017-02-27 21:43:42
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Yeah, Travis has cron jobs in beta but I still don’t think it buys a lot… Why not fail fast? PRs can create dependencies that aren’t detected until we try to make the bundle relocatable.
2017-02-27 21:44:12
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) The cron jobs and and will fail unless we resolve the root cause.
2017-02-27 21:44:59
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) There are other solutions… Only jobs on master, build the dmg and upload anyway - PRs don’t. But everything else is considered a test.
2017-02-27 21:45:05
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) It seems to me we will have to get a bit creative in one way or another if we want to continue with Travis / Appveyor
2017-02-27 21:45:19
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Agreed.
2017-02-27 21:46:17
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) The ports-cache was creative, enable ccache less so, but effective both of which were big wins. A few minutes here or there isn’t going to matter. The I/O rate on Travis seems really slow today...
2017-02-27 21:47:36
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) In the past, when we needed to recreate the cache on macOS, it would take about 1 hour 30 minutes. For some reason today, it is taking close to 2 hours. That combined with installing Qt5 dependencies pushes it over the limit. So the question is, why are the normal builds running so much slower?
2017-02-27 21:49:50
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) One option would be to drop Qt4 now and optimize the ports-cache for Qt5. That would solve the problem...
2017-02-27 21:52:29
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) I remember when we were building on Travis linux builds in 15 min with no ccache...
2017-02-27 21:53:37
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) But anyway... Did you maybe looked at https://circleci.com ? I have seen a few projects lately using it for osx builds
2017-02-27 21:57:19
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Looking closer at it now it seems like we we probably hit the limits of the seed plan, if I understand it correctly that that is free for OS
2017-02-27 22:00:40
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) man this py2 to py3, qt4 to qt5 transition is a doozy
2017-02-27 22:01:30
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) hopefully it will be done before we need to transition to py4 and qt6 j/k
2017-02-27 22:02:00
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) There would be no fun if it was to easy :)
2017-02-27 22:02:56
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) :)
2017-02-27 22:12:51
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) @sasobadovinac - yeah, I actually created a Circle-CI account about a year ago when we first hit limits but they didn't support the older OSes/SDKs so I continued forward with Travis. As for 15 minute Linux builds, any idea what has changed over the past year or so? The GCC builds come in just shy of 2 hours without a ccache?
2017-02-27 22:15:16
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Well, I don't think it is our code :)
2017-02-27 22:15:51
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Maybe we got a bit bigger but not that much
2017-02-27 22:16:06
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) I agree so what do you think it could be?
2017-02-27 22:16:26
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) I guess it is Travis infrastructure
2017-02-27 22:16:58
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) And I am saying it with understanding the folks at Travis
2017-02-27 22:17:15
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) I guess they are growing fast
2017-02-27 22:18:02
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) This is where the Linux builds were before ccache - https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?t=16444
2017-02-27 22:18:03
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) They changed to GCE, they had something else at that time, because it was possible to run with -j4 and maybe more
2017-02-27 22:20:05
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) So now they probably have to manage much more, so while it is a bigger pot, everyone gets a bit lees
2017-02-27 22:20:34
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) And it is ok, except that it seems it is getting worse :\
2017-02-27 22:22:04
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Yeah, a few of us have started discussing dedicated servers and @vejmarie has a line on some through his connections. The problem is proprietary OSes like Windows and MacOS (proprietary hardware as well). So we don’t have a clear path outside Travis yet but are exploring it.
2017-02-27 22:22:31
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) There should be some discussions between me and przemo I think on the forum, when we first started to use / test it
2017-02-27 22:24:04
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Well, it does not really hurt us that much if from time to time we have to wait a bit
2017-02-27 22:24:28
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Yep.
2017-02-27 22:25:05
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) But having a backup plan is also good :)
2017-02-27 22:26:39
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11894&start=10#p95865
2017-02-27 22:26:58
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) maybe we can make connections with a university? I think QGIS has one...maybe in the netherlands ?
2017-02-27 22:29:54
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) @sasobadovinac - those numbers look a lot better than what we were seeing in December 2015… Interesting… @luzpaz - that’s a decent idea.
2017-02-27 22:30:40
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) @kkremitzki hey mate, can you log in to their wiki and update the GSOC projects? http://brlcad.org/w/index.php?title=Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas#FreeCAD_Projects
2017-02-27 22:30:54
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) I can't seem to create an account...if I could I would
2017-02-27 22:31:25
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) Reference forum thread: https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20063&p=162232#p162232
2017-02-27 22:32:32
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) we could consider paying Travis too - wouldn't be surprised if they would negotiate for something between their normal commercial package and the free OSS one.
2017-02-27 22:33:14
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) @ianrrees true
2017-02-27 22:33:52
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Yes and I can understand it, they do provide a great service for free...
2017-02-27 22:35:40
FreeCADBot2
(kkremitzki) @luzpaz Yeah I'll give it a shot
2017-02-27 22:36:39
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) btw, did everyone get the latest coverity report? :)
2017-02-27 22:37:19
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) @sasobadovinac does one need to be on a list ?
2017-02-27 22:37:44
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) yes, a very secret list :)
2017-02-27 22:37:55
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) BTW.. I've started working on a skeleton FC Doxygen guide: https://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/Doxygen
2017-02-27 22:43:26
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) @ianrrees would paid Travis plans really be a better option for us?
2017-02-27 22:43:56
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) As I understand for paid plans they have that concurrent jobs limit
2017-02-27 22:44:02
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) don't know, but it's an option
2017-02-27 22:44:30
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) And this is the big problem we have on Appveyor
2017-02-27 22:44:35
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) paid plans do not have a build time limit
2017-02-27 22:44:54
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) @luzpaz - Doxygen has a good website, if we replicate our own version that just increases our maintenance burden
2017-02-27 22:45:17
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) Appveyor is generally quite great, stable and quite fast
2017-02-27 22:45:32
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) but it is always just one build at a time
2017-02-27 22:45:52
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) also https://freecadweb.org/wiki/Source_documentation
2017-02-27 22:46:18
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) @bblacey as I can read they have, same as us 120 min https://travis-ci.com/plans
2017-02-27 22:46:30
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) @ianrrees there is a lack of uniformity in the doxygen code within in FC. Some use \
2017-02-27 22:46:44
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Hmmm - what do they mean by “Unlimited build minutes” then?
2017-02-27 22:47:10
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) per month?
2017-02-27 22:47:21
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) @ianrrees I'm also giving folks a sample of some of the doxygen commands that are used...I'm not replicating their manual
2017-02-27 22:47:39
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) I don't think the inconsistency there is a problem at all.
2017-02-27 22:48:33
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) but i am just guessing based on https://circleci.com/pricing/#build-os-x they have this 500 min/month for their basic osx plan
2017-02-27 22:49:11
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) @ianrrees that's just one example. There are others..for example the code blocks. How people choose to demarcate them.
2017-02-27 22:49:42
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) as long as the markup works, it's fine
2017-02-27 22:49:56
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) (even if it doesn't work, it's still better than nothing)
2017-02-27 22:50:21
FreeCADBot2
(kkremitzki) hey @sasobadovinac yeah I saw, 78 new defects
2017-02-27 22:50:47
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) so then perhaps you can help me understand what you think is sufficient ? Because much of the source is not 'doxygenated'
2017-02-27 22:52:16
FreeCADBot2
(sasobadovinac) @kkremitzki thanks, I was always wondering if that email is send to everyone or just me
2017-02-27 22:52:51
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) I think the level of documentation that's sufficient is up to whoever's working on a particular chunk of code
2017-02-27 22:53:13
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) and running doxygen over a program even with 0 comments still generates useful information
2017-02-27 22:53:35
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) @ianrrees ^ + I created that doxygen page because https://freecadweb.org/wiki/Source_documentation seemed lacking in instruction on how to write doxygen code for FC
2017-02-27 22:54:34
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) perhaps whoever wrote it thinks, as I do, that there is little (or indeed negative) value in explaining how to write doxygen code on the FreeCAD wiki
2017-02-27 22:55:06
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) but, I need to get back to work (incidentally on a practically non-documented codebase)
2017-02-27 22:56:31
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) is this a philisophical argument?
2017-02-27 22:56:49
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) it seems that ian is not so fond of in source generated documentation
2017-02-27 22:57:05
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) my understanding at least
2017-02-27 22:58:01
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) is this unanimous amongst other devs? Not trying to be combative...just wondering
2017-02-27 22:58:30
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Feisty crowd today… I’m checking out too - I need to spend my time exploring productive solutions to the build failures. ttyl.
2017-02-27 23:01:16
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) I'm a huge fan of source generated documentation
2017-02-27 23:02:33
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) IMHO though, it's up to the person who's working on the code to make good documentation
2017-02-27 23:02:55
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) but not uniformly agreed-upon across-the-board styled source generated documentation?
2017-02-27 23:04:04
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) and, I am trying to emphasise reducing the maintenance burden
2017-02-27 23:04:10
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) or at least not increasing it
2017-02-27 23:04:24
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) more than 1 person work on the code though and would like to read it.
2017-02-27 23:05:23
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) i'm not trying to contentious but I'd like to have orientation around this topic
2017-02-27 23:06:14
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) ok.. maintenance, i can see where that becomes and issue if someone want to quickly change something...they need to change the documentation for it.
2017-02-27 23:08:45
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) it takes (volunteer!) work the instant that a new wiki page is created
2017-02-27 23:09:15
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) which isn't to dissuade anyone from creating wiki content, but to say that the new content should provide value
2017-02-27 23:10:19
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) a suggested template for how documentation could look like ... != value ?
2017-02-27 23:11:50
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) if you really want to document the source documentation, how about a link from the existing page on source documentation, to a file that's a ideally documented.
2017-02-27 23:14:37
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) it's a subjective opinion. That's why I'm asking for advice as well. The best doxygen documentation I have seen comes from other projects. But that's with my limited knowledge
2017-02-27 23:16:53
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) sure, I totally agree that there are other projects with better documented source. But, FreeCAD isn't bad.
2017-02-27 23:17:54
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) i agree, it's not bad. If you come across a comprehensively doxygenated page.. give me a heads up. I have come across some but I can't remember where exactly
2017-02-27 23:18:01
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) and we've got a good thing going here, so perhaps it's better to go with the flow, rather than trying to change without much reason.
2017-02-27 23:27:22
FreeCADBot2
(luzpaz) well.. the last thing my intention would be is to impeded that good thing.
2017-02-28 21:35:13
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) How should this read: https://github.com/luzpaz/FreeCAD/blob/ascii-weirdness1/src/Mod/Import/App/SCL/Builtin.py#L708
2017-02-28 21:35:54
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) should it be
2017-02-28 21:35:54
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) #EXAMPLE 153 { The following test ensures that each point is a set at a different position, (by
2017-02-28 21:35:54
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) #definition they are distinct, i.e., instance unique).
2017-02-28 21:36:01
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) grr gitter!
2017-02-28 22:04:03
Statharas
Hello
2017-02-28 22:04:37
Statharas
I'm trying to export some objects from FreeCAD to AutoCAD using Teiga, but my objects appear as drawings rather than objects
2017-02-28 22:06:04
Statharas
What gives?
2017-02-28 22:08:59
irees
hmm, what format are you trying to export/import?
2017-02-28 22:40:45
Statharas
DWG I think
2017-02-28 22:40:47
Statharas
Yeah
2017-02-28 22:40:49
Statharas
and DXF
2017-02-28 22:41:10
Statharas
(Never had a class on filetypes, so I have no clue)
2017-02-28 22:42:07
irees
DXF is a 2D format I think
2017-02-28 22:45:57
irees
I don’t know much about AutoCAD, but would guess it can import STEP - that’s probably a safer bet
2017-02-28 22:47:35
irees
from wikipedia, it looks like DWG can be either 2D or 3D - I suspect FreeCAD exports 2D
2017-02-28 22:48:22
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) https://marmelab.com/blog/2017/02/28/sedy-the-serverless-github-bot-which-fix-typos-for-you.html
2017-02-28 23:27:45
Statharas_
okay, so AutoCAD is failing to import a step file
2017-02-28 23:33:41
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) @bblacey looks like travisci pricing (https://travis-ci.com/plans) is $70 p.mo
2017-02-28 23:33:51
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) most basic plan
2017-02-28 23:43:45
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) I think @bblacey has already negotiated the "small business plan" We build 4 concurrent jobs. Sometimes multiple times a day.
2017-02-28 23:56:30
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) we pay for it ?
2017-02-28 23:56:40
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) @sgrogan ^
2017-02-28 23:58:34
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) do we get unlimited minutes for the build ?
2017-03-01 00:03:28
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) I don't know the particulars, but @bblacey has negotiated multiple times for FreeCAD. We need to be good citizens. FreeCAD is probably a "big" project fot Travis.
2017-03-01 00:06:10
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) @sgrogan I'm coming from volunteering for Scribus which I helped transition to Travis-CI. Scribus's average build time took about 1 hour.
2017-03-01 00:07:03
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) ex. https://travis-ci.org/scribusproject/scribus/builds
2017-03-01 00:10:17
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) i'm sure FC is doing much better in the courtesy dept. than Scribus
2017-03-01 00:10:19
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) We’re good. As of yesterday, the most recent negotiation gives us a 150 minute (2.5 hours) build limit. That is good because GCC has started timing out at 2 hours if the cache isn’t primed. Another tidbit from my most recent correspondence with them.
2017-03-01 00:10:19
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) > As it happens, we're currently in the process of preparing a new OS X infrastructure which runs on newer servers and should yield some performance improvements in the near future. :)
2017-03-01 00:10:53
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) @bblacey are we paying them ?
2017-03-01 00:11:04
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) No
2017-03-01 00:11:38
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) wow, cool. You said negotiation so I thought there was some sort of fee involved
2017-03-01 00:13:03
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) BTW.. Scribus was also generating appimages via TravisCI which it would then upload to a 3rd party provider...i forget where ATM..something that probonopd set up
2017-03-01 00:13:52
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) As always @bblacey GREAT job. I was gonna whine about the "parity" comment in the form. If we catch up it'll be great
2017-03-01 00:13:58
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) Each built weighed about 100MB
2017-03-01 00:14:38
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) thanks for all your work @bblacey
2017-03-01 00:14:45
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) But we might not want to brag about their graciousness towards FreeCAD - this is all from mutual good will and intentions - they really appreciate our comittment to being good citizens (e.g. developing a ports-caching system). They are still asking me to write a white paper/case study on Travis caching ;)
2017-03-01 00:15:26
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) @bblacey nice!
2017-03-01 00:16:45
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @sgrogan - I thought the other platforms were ahead? I am being serious…
2017-03-01 00:16:45
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Can I help on other platforms? I probalby won’t be much help on Windows and I know you have the well in hand but perhaps Linux? I still wonder if there would be value in producing Debian packages (or maybe AppImages?) and upload them to GitHub?
2017-03-01 00:17:56
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) speaking of which...would it be possible to compile 0.16 with OCC >=7.0 ?
2017-03-01 00:18:22
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) i saw that on the forum recently and was wondering the same thing.
2017-03-01 00:19:02
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) No OCCT 7.x with 0.16, FreeCAD wasnm't poeted.
2017-03-01 00:21:25
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) @bblacey , I think NormandC and gdo35 will get us to OCCT 7.x, and the nglib to support it. I think VTK can wait.
2017-03-01 00:22:39
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) And what’s the status and plan for Python 3? I haven’t been able tease out a succint view from the forum...
2017-03-01 00:23:34
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) We're gonna need PPA's fotr shiboken2 and pyside2. Ad how that works with QT5 ubuntu packages
2017-03-01 00:23:50
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) py3thon 3 is close: https://github.com/looooo/FreeCAD/issues/8
2017-03-01 00:24:01
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Ok. I wrote the fomulas for pyside2 and shiboken2… Maybe they can be of help.
2017-03-01 00:24:33
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) There is also a pyside-tools formula but I am not sure that it really needed.
2017-03-01 00:28:10
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) Usually I've got to try on Ubuntu, then Win, and then ask wmayer to fix it. For Python3, I'd say keep going. Parity be damned!
2017-03-01 00:28:18
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Looks like there might be issues on ubuntu… The stock Qt 5 package is 5.2.1 - I don’t know how well pyside2 will support 5.2.1. I found issues with 5.5.1 so we moved to 5.6.2 (note, the qt.io guys fixes the issue I found quickly). We might need/want a PPA for 5.6.2. Pyside2 does not yet support 5.7. Is @normand, the lead for Linux?
2017-03-01 00:30:40
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @ianrrees said he would like to work on Python 3. We believe that we will want to make Qt 5 usable first.
2017-03-01 00:32:13
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) @normandc , is the most knowable, unofficial I think its me. @normandc has gregariously jumped in to fix it.
2017-03-01 00:44:10
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @sgrogan - Amazon had an S3 outage today that mucked with a lot of systems - Travis and Appveyor included. When you get a chance, can you restart these jobs? https://ci.appveyor.com/project/yorikvanhavre/freecad/build/1.0.1499
2017-03-01 00:44:29
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) and https://ci.appveyor.com/project/yorikvanhavre/freecad/build/1.0.1500
2017-03-01 00:46:02
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) I can't re-start appveyor, I think only Yorik?
2017-03-01 00:46:16
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) What about @sasobadovinac?
2017-03-01 00:47:12
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) I thought you and @sasobadovinac created the appveyor account…
2017-03-01 00:48:35
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) Nope, I just maintain, after the heavy lifting)
2017-03-01 00:59:41
FreeCADBot3
(ianrrees) I suspect there won't be much platform dependent Python 3 work to do, compared to Qt at least
2017-03-01 01:00:41
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @ianrrees - I agree. I think we will see issues around dependencies assuming python2 and/or not supporting python3.
2017-03-01 01:01:40
FreeCADBot3
(ianrrees) meaning Python packages we depend on?
2017-03-01 01:02:39
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) No, packages that include python support...
2017-03-01 01:02:50
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) and/or bindings.
2017-03-01 01:03:58
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) For Win to take advantage of Python3 it will be a compiler change VC12 > VC 14, this means recompile everything. It also means Win will be re-aligned to Official Python
2017-03-01 01:07:18
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @luzpaz - thanks for the link to @looooo’s python3 issue tracking the progress...
2017-03-01 01:12:13
FreeCADBot3
(sgrogan) numpy and maybe yaml? The rest may have python2/3 but at least they're not compiled extensions.
2017-03-01 01:12:31
FreeCADBot3
(ianrrees) ahh, right (sorry I'll be slow to respond)
2017-03-01 01:41:47
FreeCADBot3
(ianrrees) do we compile numpy as part of the windows build?
2017-03-01 06:04:40
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) @bblacey @sgrogan regarding Qt5: Ubuntu 14.04 has 5.2.1 and 16.04 has 5.5.1. Qt is a core toolkit used by KDE as far as I know (and many, many programs in the repositories) - I'm not sure providing a newer version on a PPA would be a good idea because it may affect core systems and other programs. If 5.2 and 5.6 are not possible then I think 14.04 and 16.04 will have to remain with Qt4. Zesty provides Qt 5.7.1 so the next LTS (18.04)
2017-03-01 06:04:40
FreeCADBot3
switch. The alternative is to provide AppImages.
2017-03-01 06:05:08
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) I was curious if that was going to be the case
2017-03-01 06:06:34
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) I've been trying to get a build environment set up with pbuilder so I can help out re: Ubuntu packaging
2017-03-01 06:06:44
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) @bblacey AppImage of 0.16.6707 is already available on Github as well as an old build of 0.17_pre, both supplied by probono who's the lead AppImage developer. We'd need to get them going on our own.
2017-03-01 06:09:12
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Normand once you do `apt-get source freecad-daily`, how do you proceed to do `sudo pbuilder build...` ? I'm trying to follow the guide here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto which states to do ` sudo pbuilder build *.dsc` but there are no such files in the repo
2017-03-01 06:09:13
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) @kkremitzki I'm currently trying to build packages locally because I had to make heavy changes to gdo35's debian files. I think I'll have to let it run for the night, not sure why but parallel processing isn't working. If my changes didn't break things I'll build again but in pbuilder tomorrow night.
2017-03-01 06:09:20
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) or do you do something else
2017-03-01 06:09:23
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @normandc - I guess my question was if there would be value in uploading Linux Travis CI builds to GitHub, beit debian packages or appimages, as we do for macOS.
2017-03-01 06:12:26
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) @bblacey I would go for AppImage builds instead since they are multiplatform. With debian package you have to provide specific packages for each Ubuntu/Debian version, they are not compatible. 4 sets of packages are built separately in the freecad-daily PPA, each for amd64/arm64/i386...
2017-03-01 06:14:06
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Ok, but do you think there is value? If we have PPAs, do we need appimages as well? We have a hard enough time keeping up with one, I can’t imagine keeping up with two ;) Linux is not my primary OS so I don’t have a perspective on which would be best...
2017-03-01 06:18:05
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) Well, Canonical (publisher of Ubuntu) has introduced snap packages, which may in the long run replace deb packages. Snap packages are rather competitors to AppImage and FlatPak (Fedora). AppImage builds have "more value" because they can be used on Ubuntu, Debian, and in theory any Linux distro out there. PPA are for Ubuntu only. If push comes to shove and AppImage builds can be automated, I say let's ditch the Ubuntu PPA ;)
2017-03-01 06:20:10
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) @kkremitzki regarding pbuilder, I just tried apt-get source freecad-daily and I got the *.dsc file. Not sure why you didn't get it...
2017-03-01 06:20:41
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Interesting. Appimages would mean that devs are on their own but it would be easier for end-users. I think @vejmarie built and published a snap package - are they Ubuntu only as well? If so, still souns like AppImage is the way to go.
2017-03-01 06:22:13
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Ah yeah I see it now, I was looking in the freecad-daily folder itself but it was in the directory I ran the apt-get source command in
2017-03-01 06:22:41
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) Ubuntu was able to get other open source projects to adopt snappy (the architecture to create snap packages), but I think because the Ubuntu-Canonical/Fedora-Red Hat rivalry would complicate things, they each want to push their standard... AppImage is independent.
2017-03-01 06:24:11
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) There's one advantage to PPAs though, and that's its integration into the host update system. Once you install FreeCAD for the first time, you do not have to lift a finger to get FreeCAD updates.
2017-03-01 06:24:17
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Thanks, I was just reading about universal “snap” packages.
2017-03-01 06:24:55
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Yeah, this was more a question of direction… We should only change if there is real benefit.
2017-03-01 06:25:32
FreeCADBot3
(normandc) Well I'm way past my bedtime, gotta go! Cheers,
2017-03-01 06:25:39
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) ttyl.
2017-03-01 10:20:05
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) I liked my snap experience
2017-03-01 10:20:28
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) It needs to be updated but the approach is good and most of the build is there
2017-03-01 10:20:49
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) I think into the git within vagrant directory
2017-03-01 10:20:58
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) Need to check if it still works
2017-03-01 12:35:21
Ayoub
Hello
2017-03-01 12:53:43
rweait
hello. I'm new to FreeCAD. I'm running freecad-daily, and have trouble creating a new 'thing' with Sketcher and Part Design.
2017-03-01 12:54:43
rweait
When I draw a sketch, and constrain it, then go to Part Design, to PAD the sketch. It doesn't pad. I get an error.
2017-03-01 12:55:39
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) @normandc: on linux we could also make appimages from conda packages...
2017-03-01 12:56:28
rweait
error is "no active body" - In order to use PartDesign you need an active Body object in the document. Please make one active (double click) or create one. If you have a legacy document with PartDesign objects without Body, use the transfer function in PartDesign to put them into a Body.
2017-03-01 12:57:27
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) If this is a new file, you should create a body first.
2017-03-01 12:58:50
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) or you can create the body afterwards and drag the sketch into the body-container
2017-03-01 13:00:08
rweait
thank you, looooo
2017-03-01 13:05:46
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) there are also many forum topics regarding part-design next: https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?t=15432
2017-03-01 13:07:59
rweait
Thank you, looooo, I've seen a few forum posts, and a few youtube video tutorials. Awesome. And a bit overwhelming. I'm finding that the individual steps seem to make sense. I'm having difficulty knowing which order to take the steps?
2017-03-01 13:09:14
rweait
Is there a super-beginner-level tutorial, that walks through Idea --> CNC mill ? I've seen stuff on each step along the way.
2017-03-01 13:10:50
rweait
Perhaps I need to look at a glossary, to make sure that I understand the words.
2017-03-01 13:14:31
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) maybe a good idea. I am also still learning part-design next stuff, and struggling with that a bit.
2017-03-01 13:15:09
rweait
:-)
2017-03-01 13:15:31
rweait
Perhaps I'll have to write the tutorial as I learn. :-)
2017-03-01 13:15:41
rweait
Thanks again!
2017-03-01 13:15:48
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) I just checked, the FreeCAD manual has a section on generating G-code from a lego brick you make in an earlier section, but that's not quite what you are talking about
2017-03-01 13:16:14
rweait
kkremitzki: Thank you! I'll look for that.
2017-03-01 13:16:27
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Here's a link: https://yorikvanhavre.gitbooks.io/a-freecad-manual/content/working_with_freecad/preparing_models_for_3d_printing.html#generating-g-code
2017-03-01 13:18:34
rweait
Thank you!
2017-03-01 13:20:43
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) you're welcome
2017-03-01 15:50:28
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @kkremitzki - nice job with the Mantis/GitHub integration. I used Fixes #<mantis issue #> in the commit message for a PR yesterday and when Werner merged it, it attached the diffs, the commit hash and closed it. Pretty slick.
2017-03-01 15:50:43
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Ah, awesome
2017-03-01 15:52:11
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) the branch of that plugin for MantisBT 2.x hasn't been updated since November and has a few bugfixes and stuff I can't wait for, the maintainer said he was hoping to rebase onto master this week I think
2017-03-01 15:53:19
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Can you configure the plugin so it uses the commit author instead of the person who merged it when providing the updates?
2017-03-01 15:53:44
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Example - https://www.freecadweb.org/tracker/view.php?id=2928
2017-03-01 15:55:30
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Hmm, not that I know of
2017-03-01 15:57:08
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Where under "related changesets" it says: Committer: wmayer ?
2017-03-01 15:57:14
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Also, is mant@vnn.vn involved in some way? I haven a bounced email saying that the mailbox disk quota for the recipient has been exceeded and I didn’t manually send an email to that account.
2017-03-01 15:58:21
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) wmayer merged it… Hmmm, I don’t know if Werner is merging with the GitHub API or some other way… But typically, the merge will have an author and a committer. Not a big deal, just noticed it.
2017-03-01 15:59:01
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Yeah, I noticed that on Github the merges would say "wmayer with soandso"
2017-03-01 16:02:45
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) and I'm not sure on mant@vnn.vn
2017-03-01 16:07:38
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Ok, if you look at the [commit history](https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/commits/master) it says “bblacey committed with wwmayer” so GitHub has it sorted… Also, in the git commit log, it shows bblacey as the author. For other issue tracking systems that integrate with git, you can configure whether you use the author or comitter when updating the ticket hence why I was asking. It might be that the plugin allows a setting lik
2017-03-01 16:08:01
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Yep, I'm looking in the config options for it now
2017-03-01 16:08:12
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Cool.
2017-03-01 16:10:17
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) well when I look at the commit for that as well it shows you as author and wmayer as committer.. https://www.freecadweb.org/tracker/plugin.php?page=Source/view&id=6867
2017-03-01 16:11:48
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) BTW not sure if you knew this but the roadmap for 0.17 (still a long ways out I know) can have issues added to it by setting the target version to 0.17
2017-03-01 16:11:59
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) the mantisbt 2.x roadmap just looks so good it seems a shame to not use
2017-03-01 16:13:43
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) That looks good - I might have been reading the history incorrectly. What piqued my interest was the place where the plugin assigned the ticket to werner and then closed it but if it tracks author and committer, then it is accurate. I believe I set the version to 0.17 when I filed the issue.
2017-03-01 16:14:08
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) nope, I'm not seeing anything in the config. hopefully it gets updated when the maintainer brings the branch up to date, and if not I can open an issue on github
2017-03-01 16:14:30
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) I see - you are talking about Fixed in Version? That is blank but Product and Target versions are both 0.17. Does the roadmap use target version?
2017-03-01 16:14:33
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) yep I see that here was just making an aside
2017-03-01 16:14:40
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) no, you had it set correctly
2017-03-01 16:14:48
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) it uses target version
2017-03-01 16:15:57
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) Yeah, the roadmap looks pretty good. Maybe @luzpaz can lead a team to triage the tickets and set the target version.
2017-03-01 16:16:17
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) He would want to work with the key stakeholders...
2017-03-01 16:16:36
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Yup, and some of the missing items are just needed features descriptions
2017-03-01 16:35:28
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @looooo - you seem to be the resident authorty on the Python 3 port. I’m trying to understand the state-of-affairs/maturity but haven’t been following it closely. How would you describe where we are, what is left to do, and a stab at a timeline?
2017-03-01 20:23:08
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) i would say it will need about 2 weeks to have the remaining diff in master. after that it will need another round of fixing things, because fem and path have introduced new py3 incompabilities. right now i have a branch working with python3, and compiling with python2. i will try to go on with creating smaller pullrequests, as this was working quite well. you can see the merge-state here:
2017-03-01 20:24:06
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) https://github.com/looooo/FreeCAD/issues/8
2017-03-01 20:31:51
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) @bblacey i'd be happy to but I'm not sure what the issue is... are you guys pointing out that issues closed through the source-integration plugin (using keywords to trigger commit attribution between a commit and ticket) isn't setting the target version ? and that would need to be set manually ?
2017-03-01 20:32:02
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) CC @kkremitzki
2017-03-01 21:29:26
FreeCADBot3
(bblacey) @looooo - thanks for your perspective and hard work; nice job with the python 3 heavy-lifting. @ianrrees, maybe we need to think about a python 3 branch that wrings out macOS dependency issues. I can set one up on my repo with a Travis config to build both python 2 and 3 but probably not until we merge the Qt56 branch on homebrew-freecad into master… I’m doing one thing on Linux for Werner first then I plan to look at how to mer
2017-03-01 21:29:26
FreeCADBot3
without breaking the builds given the inter-dependencies ;) I suspect the ports-cache will play even a bigger role on python 3 because none of the homebrew formulae are bottled with python 3 so I believe they will all need to be built from source.
2017-03-01 21:33:04
FreeCADBot3
(ianrrees) Maybe - I think as you suggest that Qt5 is a bigger priority than Python3
2017-03-02 00:55:51
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) @luzpaz no that's a separate concern, the issue was the committer vs author not appearing correctly for a commit. I'd say we should hold off on further investigation into that until the Source-Integration plugin gets the 2.x branch updated and I do the upgrade to 2.2. What @bblacey was referring to was tagging issues with target version 0.17 so they show up on the roadmap. Of course knowing what "should" be in there isn't straightfo
2017-03-02 00:55:51
FreeCADBot3
easy enough to decide something's non-essential after it's been tagged
2017-03-02 01:38:10
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Nevermind, I think that is fixed in #22302
2017-03-02 01:38:19
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Gonna give it a shot
2017-03-02 01:38:25
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) Oops
2017-03-02 01:46:24
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) I'm gonna bring the bugtracker down in a few minutes for a quick upgrade
2017-03-02 01:51:04
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) :+1:
2017-03-02 03:10:32
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) OK, it's back up
2017-03-02 03:11:01
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) I upgraded to 2.2.0 and converted the DB to UTF-8, please let me know if you see any issues especially regarding the latter
2017-03-02 08:40:26
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) @bblacey It would be nice to have the python3 stuff tested automatically. Otherwise there will be new incompatibilities introduced all the time.
2017-03-02 08:40:26
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) Doing this with travis would be very nice.
2017-03-02 08:40:26
FreeCADBot3
(looooo) Alternatively we could use the conda-packages to test freecad with python3. Maybe using circle-ci could be an option to do this.
2017-03-02 12:12:31
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) ping @caceres
2017-03-02 12:45:39
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) MacOSX folks, do you mind testing: https://freecadweb.org/tracker/view.php?id=2280 at your convenience ? It's an 0.15 bug that is reporting an Coin3d bug, OP is not responsive.
2017-03-02 12:46:01
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) s/
2017-03-02 12:53:15
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) @luzpaz the bug is still there in 0.17 (aka the font doesn't change)
2017-03-02 12:53:44
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) I am running 10276 on Mac OS El Capitan
2017-03-02 12:54:31
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) awesome, thanks @vejmarie can you please quickly notate the bug with Help > About FreeCAD > Copy to clipboard ?
2017-03-02 12:54:52
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) I can but trust me my configuration is not "supported"
2017-03-02 12:55:25
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) what version of coin3d are you running..i think is the most important
2017-03-02 12:55:43
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) latest 4.0.0a
2017-03-02 12:56:00
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) ( I was the only one for the latest few months on MacOS I think to run this stuff)
2017-03-02 12:56:13
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) then you are the perfecct tester for this :)
2017-03-02 12:56:43
FreeCADBot3
(kkremitzki) The Mac 0.17 builds all now have 4.0.0a I think
2017-03-02 12:57:00
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) Yep blacey introduced it a few weeks ago ;)
2017-03-02 12:57:17
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) But I am not using the built, I am using my own repo
2017-03-02 12:59:34
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) 'Area51 repo'
2017-03-02 13:01:26
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) i'd assign that ticket an 0.17 target but I don't want to be presumptuous since it's assigned to yorik, and he already has his plate full.
2017-03-02 13:02:03
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) I am also overloaded on a few features I liked to finish before 0.17 gets out
2017-03-02 13:03:26
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) @vejmarie cool, what are you working on ?
2017-03-02 13:03:35
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) @bblacey regarding macport, I liked to maintain it, but I really like to develop code in FreeCAD, and there are so many things to make happen
2017-03-02 13:03:59
FreeCADBot3
(vejmarie) @luzpaz 3D rendering pipeline (VBO and OpenGL improvement), and STEP reader improvement currently
2017-03-02 13:04:25
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) nice
2017-03-02 13:07:12
FreeCADBot3
(luzpaz) @vejmarie would any of these open upstream bugs benefit your productivity? https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=20264 I ask because we have several open upstream OCC bugs that are unscheduled (they aren't necessarily going to get fixed in any of the upcoming version releases). Shoogen was the guy that did a lot of pushing to make things happen upstream. I know you have as well. But perhaps getting some of those bugs on th
2017-03-02 13:07:13
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immediate priority list could be beneficial ?
2017-03-02 13:07:26
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(sasobadovinac) @vejmarie I think importing this file https://github.com/yorikvanhavre/FreeCAD-testhouse/raw/master/testhouse.ifc will crash FC when VBO is on
2017-03-02 14:19:47
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(vejmarie) @sasobadovinac I will check, but I first need to turn on IFC into my build :(
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(vejmarie) @luzpaz I don't think yet. I still need to go through that list, as I do have some good contact with occ guys, but I am pretty packed currently with a demo next week at the OCP summit in Santa Clara
2017-03-02 14:42:40
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(sliptonic) What's an easy way to test if a face is planar in a macro?
2017-03-02 15:40:38
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(kkremitzki) Hmm how come `.travis.yml` is set to clone the repo to a depth of 5000 commits?
2017-03-02 15:45:51
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(sasobadovinac) @kkremitzki it is the way we get the commit number for the version
2017-03-02 16:02:12
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(bblacey) @ianrrees - qt.io guys [continue to plug away at pyside2](https://wiki.qt.io/PySide2). They’re making good progress with shiboken-clang for QT 5.7+
2017-03-02 16:28:07
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(luzpaz) https://freecadweb.org/tracker/view.php?id=2663 <= can someone test on lastest master if this is a problem ?
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(ianrrees) @sliptonic - I tried grepping for the OCC methods recommended in https://www.opencascade.com/content/how-check-if-surface-planar and found GeomAbs_Plane used several times in Part and PartDesign. Haven't noticed a good way to get at any of the uses from Python yet. AttachEngine::getShapeType() is close, but isn't hooked up to Python yet - probably wouldn't be too hard if you don't find a better solution.
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