#freecad Log v0.1

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2017-03-10 00:14:06
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) OK in old drawing scroll up is smaller. In part etc, techdraw scroll up is bigger. I'd mark as won't fix, consistent intechdraw.
2017-03-10 00:17:27
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) @sgrogan :+1:
2017-03-10 00:56:09
Tenacious-Techhu
Anyone have a recommended way to CAD up a machinable quality approximation of a logarithmic spiral?
2017-03-10 01:19:40
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) Hi Tenacious-Techhu - I tend to reach for Python pretty quick for that sort of thing
2017-03-10 01:23:03
Tenacious-Techhu
FreeCADBot1, unfortunately, I havenât found a good approximation to limit the position-to-position error with; otherwise, I would just use a Python script to make a corresponding script file.
2017-03-10 01:23:21
Tenacious-Techhu
Do you know how I can keep an approximation from diverging from the spiral too much?
2017-03-10 01:23:55
Tenacious-Techhu
Iâd like to keep the approximation within sub-machinability tolerances; Iâm using the cuts for diagnostic purposes.
2017-03-10 01:25:09
Tenacious-Techhu
Sorry, maybe I meant ianrrees, on account of the mirror?
2017-03-10 01:58:05
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) yes, I'm ianrrees (sorry about slow responses - trying to wrap up some other stuff)
2017-03-10 01:58:52
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I guess you need to put a figure on an acceptable tolerance, and define it with a bspline or similar
2017-03-10 01:59:00
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) rather a set of bsplines
2017-03-10 02:02:39
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) looooo has a gear workbench that's written in Python and will have some good examples of the geometric primitives you'll need - eg https://github.com/looooo/FCGear/blob/master/gearfunc/_Classes.py
2017-03-10 02:09:06
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) Tenacious-Techhu, ^
2017-03-10 03:59:03
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) @luzpaz @kkremitzki suggesting dropping Qt4 support on v0.17 frightens the hell out of me to stay polite. Forcing use of Qt5.6, if that's what we're talking about, basically bars FreeCAD from Debian/Ubuntu repositories for the next few years. Ubuntu 14.04 still offers Qt5.2 until 2019, and 16.04 released not even a year ago is using Qt5.5.1 and will mostly be until it reaches EOL in 2021. The frenzy to update all dependencies to the v
2017-03-10 03:59:03
FreeCADBot1
has to stop or at least offer a fallback. It's already a pita with netgen, med-file etc.
2017-03-10 04:16:20
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I think we need to get Qt5 support in, but don't see any immediate reason that we need to drop Qt4
2017-03-10 04:24:45
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @normandc and @ianrrees - We may have to take a per-platform stance on Qt. Homebrew has deprecated support for Qt4 period. So perhaps on macOS, we should require Qt5.x however that doesnât mean we must require Qt 5.x across all platforms. It really should come down to how much work it requires to support various platforms. If we have to bend iron to support Qt5 on Ubuntu, then we shouldnât require it and if it requires us to be
2017-03-10 04:24:45
FreeCADBot1
4 on macOS, then we shouldnât do that either. Sanity should prevail ;)
2017-03-10 04:26:24
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I guess by "support" what I mean is that the program can be built with
2017-03-10 04:28:52
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @ianrrees - speaking of Qt 5⦠Werner found that undocking the QtOpenGLWidget caused issues on Linux. I regressed it on macOS and it failes with a BAD_ACCESS exception. Enabled Zombies and it works - clearly some elusive object deallocation issue that is correlated with compiler optimization⦠Iâm not a Qt guy - any ideas?
2017-03-10 04:29:33
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) as a practical matter though, as soon as Qt5 is usable on Mac, I don't think we should encourage people to use Qt4 on MacOS
2017-03-10 04:30:23
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) well now that we've got Coverity... that would seem like an obvious thing to try :)
2017-03-10 04:31:40
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Or clangâs static analysis - need to rifle through my emails to find @sasobadovinacâs last Coverity report.
2017-03-10 04:32:11
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I think it's from before the Qt5 change that would've triggered that issue
2017-03-10 04:33:30
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Thatâs what Iâm thinking - it probably squeezes by under Qt 4 but manifests as an access violation exception under Qt5
2017-03-10 04:35:29
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Iâm not super familiar with the code base, but doesnât FreeCAD implement some sort of reference counting?
2017-03-10 04:35:44
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) I thought I saw vestiges of that before...
2017-03-10 04:37:19
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) [![Screen Shot 2017-03-09 at 8.39.04 PM.png](https://files.gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/3wzb/thumb/Screen-Shot-2017-03-09-at-8.39.04-PM.png)](https://files.gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/3wzb/Screen-Shot-2017-03-09-at-8.39.04-PM.png)
2017-03-10 04:37:26
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Hmmm, clang static analysis - seems like a target rich environment.
2017-03-10 04:37:40
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) Qt manages QObject derivatives, so it's possible to cause problems by trying to manage them manually
2017-03-10 04:37:58
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) there's also reference counting involved in the Python interface
2017-03-10 04:38:02
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Thanks for the pointer (pun intended)
2017-03-10 04:38:24
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Ah, maybe that is where I saw it when I was working on propogating exceptions up to the shell.
2017-03-10 04:39:28
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) that is definitely a potential memory leak above
2017-03-10 04:39:32
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) [![Screen Shot 2017-03-09 at 8.41.21 PM.png](https://files.gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/vXBs/thumb/Screen-Shot-2017-03-09-at-8.41.21-PM.png)](https://files.gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/vXBs/Screen-Shot-2017-03-09-at-8.41.21-PM.png)
2017-03-10 04:39:33
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Hereâs another interesting one.
2017-03-10 04:39:36
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) well, not "definitely" but seems likely
2017-03-10 04:39:39
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Yep, definitely a leek.
2017-03-10 04:39:58
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Well, if all goes well, it wonât leak but still...
2017-03-10 04:41:41
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) I will stop after this one...
2017-03-10 04:41:43
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) [![Screen Shot 2017-03-09 at 8.43.05 PM.png](https://files.gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/PVdD/thumb/Screen-Shot-2017-03-09-at-8.43.05-PM.png)](https://files.gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/PVdD/Screen-Shot-2017-03-09-at-8.43.05-PM.png)
2017-03-10 04:44:49
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) that last one looks fine, but I wonder if there's a #pragma to disable the warning
2017-03-10 04:47:33
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) gotta run for a bit, I'm hoping to finally get back to that bundling script this weekend
2017-03-10 04:47:43
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) This makes me wish I had more time to spelunk in the FreeCAD code base⦠Feels good to crack it open.
2017-03-10 04:47:55
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Sounds good - ttyl.
2017-03-10 04:48:06
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) yeah, much more fun than just packaging stuff!
2017-03-10 08:06:17
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) @kkremitzki you mentioned the openssl dependency of conda. Do you think this is a problem?
2017-03-10 12:26:17
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) @bblacey Just FYI, Scribus minimum version for Qt5 is 5.5 but in its development process it tests up to Qt5.8.x https://github.com/scribusproject/scribus/blob/master/.travis.yml#L24-L37
2017-03-10 12:28:06
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) I rslightly recall it had to do with some key issues regarding HiDPI and font support (harfbuzz and icu which made huge strides in regards to Right-to-Left support) + some other performance issues.
2017-03-10 12:29:09
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) that's why you see those 3 repositories in lines 26-28
2017-03-10 12:31:48
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) here is their Cmake find Qt logic: https://github.com/scribusproject/scribus/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L600-L687
2017-03-10 12:34:33
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) Looks like QGIS creates prebuild binaries for Qt5/Py3 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/.travis.yml#L4 (not sure what osgeo4travis is)
2017-03-10 12:47:27
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) #FreeCAD is going through the Qt4 to Qt5 migration hell ATM and so I'm doing some research to see how other FOSS projects who have matured in the Qt5 ecosystem deal with the issues of Distros like Ubuntu. For example: Ubuntu 14.04 still offers Qt5.2 until 2019, and 16.04 released not even a year ago is using Qt5.5.1 and will mostly be until it reaches EOL in 2021. What is your approach? (BTW, i couldn't grok where you guys pull in Qt5 i
2017-03-10 12:49:00
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) In your [INSTALL](https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/INSTALL#L101) file you guys say: Qt >= 5.3.0
2017-03-10 12:54:54
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) Reading: "3.3. Install build dependencies"
2017-03-10 12:56:28
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) I'm asking on qgis/QGIS the same question ATM
2017-03-10 12:57:13
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) BTW, I misread and should of directed my words to @normandc and not bblacey as such
2017-03-10 12:59:41
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) posted those questions erroneously here..so i deleted them and reposted to Qgis :|
2017-03-10 13:08:13
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) @normandc https://musescore.org/en/developers-handbook/compilation/compile-instructions-ubuntu-14.10-git
2017-03-10 13:08:13
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) > Important Note: It is now necessary to install Qt5.6 (or later)
2017-03-10 13:08:13
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) MuseScore uses Qt to achieve a consistent look and feel across different platforms (Mac, Windows & Linux). Qt is updated more frequently than any other dependency. Having an out-of-date version of Qt is the most common cause of problems as far reaching as strange window behaviour, keyboard shortcuts not working, or the code failing to compile outright.
2017-03-10 13:13:03
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) @normandc from the QGIS folks:
2017-03-10 13:13:03
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) > we build master (2b QGIS3; Qt5) for unstable, stretch, yakkety, xenian-ubuntugis (xenial lacks GDAL2) - no jessie, no trusty, no precise
2017-03-10 13:13:03
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) http://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#debian-ubuntu
2017-03-10 14:47:24
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) @normandc I know what you mean, the point I was trying to make is that FreeCAD is in a bit of a dependency hell situation right now with several moving versions. I think anything more than making Qt5+Py3 available for 0.17 and maybe phasing out Qt4+Py2 by 0.18 is too ambitious
2017-03-10 14:47:50
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) and @looooo no issue with the openssl dependency, just surprising to see it in there
2017-03-10 17:55:00
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) Just learned about https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Makepkg#MAKEFLAGS
2017-03-10 17:55:50
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) So now when I compile anything it will use all my cpu cores
2017-03-10 17:56:05
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) added `export MAKEFLAGS="-j$(nproc)"` to my ~/.bashrc
2017-03-10 17:56:30
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) `echo $MAKEFLAGS` returns `-j4`
2017-03-10 18:00:40
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) sorry, forgot to mention to run `source ~/.bashrc` to initialize the environmental variable
2017-03-10 21:12:25
Gegsite
hey I found a company (start up) who uses freecad just a FYI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CwZZ3tRBic
2017-03-10 21:12:51
Gegsite
from 1:30 :)
2017-03-10 22:33:07
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) Gegsite, maybe put it up on the forum too? https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=143
2017-03-11 00:18:44
CathyInBlue
Where do I go to begin learning to use FreeCAD?
2017-03-11 00:20:45
sliptonic
hi CathyInBlue. Lots of tutorials around. The start page in FreeCAD links to a section on the freecad site.
2017-03-11 00:21:24
sliptonic
But it depends on what you want to do with it. FreeCAD has workbenches for many different kinds of tasks.
2017-03-11 00:22:28
CathyInBlue
ATM, I want to learn to navigate FreeCAD.
2017-03-11 00:22:36
CathyInBlue
So, this URL? http://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
2017-03-11 00:22:50
sliptonic
https://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/Category:Tutorials
2017-03-11 00:23:21
sliptonic
What are you interested in doing?
2017-03-11 00:25:17
CathyInBlue
Building a house, designing an axial-piston engine, milling a cap-and-ball revolver, basic mechanical design stuff.
2017-03-11 00:26:23
sliptonic
Building a house will have you in the Arch workbench. The engine in a variety of workbenches including Part Design. CNC/CAM is the Path workbench. etc.
2017-03-11 00:28:42
CathyInBlue
Looks likek I;m starting at the basic modelling tutorial.
2017-03-11 00:30:51
sliptonic
Sounds good. Welcome and feel free to ask for help here or on the forum. If you post to the forum, make sure to include your freecad info from the help page. Folks are quite friendly but since FreeCAD moves so fast, it's hard to support without that.
2017-03-11 01:25:13
CathyInBlue
Seems halfway through the Basic Modelling Tutorial, FreeCAD locked up my GNOME 3 on Wayland and no other button in any app could be clicked.
2017-03-11 01:56:32
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) CathyInBlue, what OS/Platform are you running and how did you install FreeCAD (please paste Help > About FreeCAD > Copy to cliboard)
2017-03-11 01:56:57
CathyInBlue
Arch Linux, freshly updated.
2017-03-11 01:57:18
CathyInBlue
pacman -S freecad
2017-03-11 01:57:23
CathyInBlue
That was my install command.
2017-03-11 01:58:14
CathyInBlue
OS: Linux
2017-03-11 01:58:14
CathyInBlue
Word size of OS: 64-bit
2017-03-11 01:58:14
CathyInBlue
Word size of FreeCAD: 64-bit
2017-03-11 01:58:14
CathyInBlue
Version: 0.16.Unknown
2017-03-11 01:58:14
CathyInBlue
Build type: Release
2017-03-11 01:58:15
CathyInBlue
Python version: 2.7.13
2017-03-11 01:58:17
CathyInBlue
Qt version: 4.8.7
2017-03-11 01:58:19
CathyInBlue
Coin version: 3.1.3
2017-03-11 01:58:21
CathyInBlue
OCC version: 6.9.1
2017-03-11 01:58:50
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) can you recreate the issue ?
2017-03-11 01:59:01
CathyInBlue
Let's see.
2017-03-11 01:59:14
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) start Freecad from the command line
2017-03-11 01:59:20
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) and then try to recreate the problem
2017-03-11 02:02:05
CathyInBlue
I just launched freecad from GNOME's [Show Applications] screen and ran through everything I did in the tutorial up to the point where it froze my GUI, and nothing seems to have happened.
2017-03-11 02:03:03
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) you can't recreate the issue ?
2017-03-11 02:03:11
CathyInBlue
Not apparently.
2017-03-11 02:03:43
CathyInBlue
Let me finish the tutorial and see what happens.
2017-03-11 02:15:48
CathyInBlue
In the Drafting workbench, the icon for the clone tool is a Mandalorian helmet? You people are my kinda nerds.
2017-03-11 02:19:41
CathyInBlue
This tutorial needs updating.
2017-03-11 02:20:04
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) which one and how so ?
2017-03-11 02:28:10
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) CathyInBlue - it would be great if you could help with updating tutorials! That said, the current state of FreeCAD is already well past 0.16, so it might be better to wait on that until you're familiar with a more current version of FC
2017-03-11 02:31:28
XXCoder
whats state of CAM on freecad?>
2017-03-11 02:31:48
XXCoder
last time I tried on .016 it was all kinds of broken, and 0.17 was strange
2017-03-11 02:49:03
mozzarella
what's CAM?
2017-03-11 02:50:34
XXCoder
its making gcode program from model
2017-03-11 02:50:42
XXCoder
computer aided machining
2017-03-11 02:50:51
XXCoder
freecad has cam functions but it sucks
2017-03-11 02:54:28
sliptonic
XXCoder: Oh c'mon. 'Sucks'. That's a bit harsh. I'd say it's immature, needing development, in process, or early. But 'sucks' is harsh.
2017-03-11 02:54:50
XXCoder
I suppose
2017-03-11 02:55:08
sliptonic
I eagerly await your pull request ;-)
2017-03-11 02:55:30
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) that should be the tagline of the FOSS movement
2017-03-11 02:55:53
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) FOSS - We eagerly await your pull request
2017-03-11 02:55:55
XXCoder
im techinically a developer but I doubt I can do it lol
2017-03-11 02:56:21
sliptonic
My degree is in psychology. That explains a lot.
2017-03-11 02:56:42
XXCoder
in cnc machinist
2017-03-11 02:56:45
XXCoder
*im
2017-03-11 02:56:55
XXCoder
I also has machines at home for hobby
2017-03-11 02:57:13
sliptonic
Then you bring more to the table than I. Welcome aboard :-)
2017-03-11 02:58:05
XXCoder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=558lr67m91E
2017-03-11 02:59:08
XXCoder
sadly it dont even have autocraps
2017-03-11 02:59:44
sliptonic
autocraps??
2017-03-11 03:00:02
XXCoder
autocaptions I call it autocraps because it dont work too well sometimes
2017-03-11 03:00:32
sliptonic
Is this you?
2017-03-11 03:00:42
XXCoder
video? nah
2017-03-11 03:01:08
sliptonic
Needs audio. And preferrably video. People like seeing people
2017-03-11 03:01:28
XXCoder
ah no wonder no autocraps, no audio to process
2017-03-11 03:03:57
sliptonic
I've watched a ton of sentdex's python videos. Now I look for three things: 1) screen has to be readable 2) audio has to not suck. 3) video of speaker. For some reason, it makes it easier to follow.
2017-03-11 03:04:40
XXCoder
for me 1) video has to be clear and readable. 2) captions.
2017-03-11 03:05:03
sliptonic
Makes sense. Have my videos generated decent captions?
2017-03-11 03:05:13
XXCoder
link to one
2017-03-11 03:05:25
sliptonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic9Kip5ufDE
2017-03-11 03:06:03
XXCoder
seems ok, but had to stop. video latency is making me dizzy
2017-03-11 03:06:31
XXCoder
ohh assembly tutorial
2017-03-11 03:06:52
sliptonic
I've been looking for something better than obs but, so far, nothing for linux.
2017-03-11 03:07:23
XXCoder
video editor?
2017-03-11 03:08:02
XXCoder
I use openshot
2017-03-11 03:08:28
sliptonic
I used to use openshot but very crash-y
2017-03-11 03:08:57
XXCoder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZXK1ljoxF8 if youre curious
2017-03-11 03:09:15
XXCoder
if you wanna cry with bad video editing, look for nylon fail in my channel
2017-03-11 03:09:32
XXCoder
yes, vertical is evil, I forgot to turn my phone around lol
2017-03-11 03:14:28
sliptonic
What kind of machine is that?
2017-03-11 03:14:48
XXCoder
cnc router
2017-03-11 03:14:56
sliptonic
home built?
2017-03-11 03:15:15
XXCoder
nah, that was my orginial plan, I still have supported rods and ballscrews for that
2017-03-11 03:15:24
XXCoder
but guess just extra junk now
2017-03-11 03:16:04
sliptonic
Seems to move pretty well
2017-03-11 03:16:19
nilsson
XXCoder, I see axis on the monitor, are you running Linuxcnc, or machinekit?
2017-03-11 03:17:04
XXCoder
linuxcnc
2017-03-11 03:17:26
XXCoder
slip yeah you should listen to old video, its just not good. old tb6560 system sucked
2017-03-11 03:17:39
XXCoder
others told me it sounded not very good.
2017-03-11 03:17:51
XXCoder
and that grinder "spindle" lol that thing sucked
2017-03-11 03:17:59
XXCoder
so worth moneu upgrade
2017-03-11 03:18:11
sliptonic
My first two routers sucked. wood machines. Absolute crap. Made a lot of stuff with both of them though.
2017-03-11 03:19:11
XXCoder
nice
2017-03-11 03:19:22
XXCoder
im still figuring stuff and I still need box to put electrics in.
2017-03-11 03:19:55
sliptonic
nilsson: Why do you ask? I'm running a combination of MK and linuxcnc between various machines.
2017-03-11 03:20:17
XXCoder
you ever try laser?
2017-03-11 03:20:31
XXCoder
im considering using left over SBRs and ballscrews for laser
2017-03-11 03:20:41
XXCoder
600x600mm area one
2017-03-11 03:20:50
sliptonic
I have a retrofit universal laser in my shop. It's been running mk for three years and I'm in the process of converting it to a smoothieboard.
2017-03-11 03:21:19
XXCoder
heh if I decide to make laser I'll just use tb6560, it works fine for very low load
2017-03-11 03:29:49
nilsson
sliptonic, just curious, I wasn't sure how many people knew about machinekit compared to linuxcnc
2017-03-11 03:31:12
XXCoder
sliptonic: better one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4JUnB1AHdY
2017-03-11 03:35:12
CathyInBlue
luzpoz: I did the Basic Modelling Tutorial. It uses "Box" where the most up to date FreeCAD in the Arch repositories has "Cube"s. The tutoria says to click on the "+" sign, where the app has filled triangles. It says the workplane button is on the right and reads "None" when it's on the left and reads "Auto".
2017-03-11 03:35:45
CathyInBlue
ianrrees: Well, when the FC devs decide to pinch it off and release 0.17 official, I'll be sure to update.
2017-03-11 03:40:07
XXCoder
huh "make body"
2017-03-11 03:40:10
XXCoder
new one in 0.17
2017-03-11 03:48:58
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) CathyInBlue - you're welcome to run whichever version you'd like. My point was more that updating tutorials to match 0.16 is probably not a good use of time at this point.
2017-03-11 05:37:05
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @kkremitzki - I was just watching @sliptonic 's (very nicely done!) video series about Path scripting and noticed he has the answer to your question about how to get a handle on a vertex that's selected in the gui: `>>> sel = Gui.Selection.getSelectionEx()[0]
2017-03-11 05:37:06
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) >>> sel.SubElementNames
2017-03-11 05:37:06
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) ('Vertex1',)`
2017-03-11 05:37:06
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees)
2017-03-11 06:15:21
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Ah nice, thanks! it's actually `sel.SubObjects` that I want but that definitely works
2017-03-11 06:17:25
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) and agreed on sliptonic's videos, I hadn't seen them before but I'm very intrigued so far, I've seen the Leidenfrost effect video he's talking about before
2017-03-11 08:02:07
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) I have never seen https://www.bountysource.com/teams/freecad before, that's interesting... if someone has a feature they really really want implemented they could put a bounty on it
2017-03-11 08:07:43
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) @luzpaz That link says "If your repository does not have 5.6 or later then follow these steps to install it:" with a .run script that will not be registered in the host system package manager. I **hate** that. And I don't see how it would be possible to make it work seamlessly with the PPA. Requiring end users to manually install Qt5.6 before they can use the PPA is unacceptable IMO. I'm with @bblacey on this: Qt4.x for current Ubuntu
2017-03-11 08:07:43
FreeCADBot1
the only sensible choice, Ubuntu 18.04 will probably have Qt >=5.7 which from what I understand is currently incompatible? If you ask me "why not package Qt5.6 on the PPA" I'll reply "why are we not building and maintaining our own tailored Linux distro"? ;-)
2017-03-11 08:10:10
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @vejmarie - what C++ compiler do you use for libraries/programs that need OpenMP?
2017-03-11 08:10:35
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I'm trying to build opencamlib
2017-03-11 08:11:09
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @normandc - the Qt>=5.7 issue is likely going away soon (if it hasn't already)
2017-03-11 08:12:32
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) (It goes back to Shiboken, which is a tool used to build PySide2. The Qt guys are doing a bunch of work on that.)
2017-03-11 08:19:01
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) @normandc thanks for your efforts to get freecad-daily ready with occt.
2017-03-11 08:19:02
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) Regarding Qt5: was there a official release of pyside2 yet?
2017-03-11 08:25:48
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) lorenz - no, I think that's still a while off
2017-03-11 08:28:31
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) shouldn't we wait for that? If there is one, there will be for sure official packages available, which lower the work we have to do...
2017-03-11 08:30:56
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) @bblacey thanks for your hint regarding docker some time ago. This is working very well. This will increase the linux-distros where the conda-packages work, as I can locally use the same enviroments as conda-forge uses on circle-ci... . I wonder if there is a docker-file to create windows packages on linux??? :-)
2017-03-11 08:37:32
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) regarding qt5 on conda: there are builds for all platforms for qt5.6. But no PySide2 package. I think once there is a official release of pyside2, conda-forge will get one ready... So I will wait for that and concentrate on python3 with conda....
2017-03-11 09:08:44
doublehp
hello; I have done measurements on my house, and now trying to draw the building. Because of odd, I measured things by triangles (nothing is really square in my life; triangles easily let me set constrainsts). I entered all this in a sketch, but now, I am not able to reuse my points for other things; Freecad does not allow me to use these points to set walls and other things;
2017-03-11 09:09:13
doublehp
I tried to convert sketch into draft, half points are missing.
2017-03-11 09:12:59
doublehp
I can't build walls the traditionnal way (set a line, ask a 30cm thick wall along the line); for walls, I measure the 4 corners and draw a quadrilater, then wanted to use that surface to build a volume. Note that all surface measurements have been enteredin a sketch at elevation 0; but base of wall will start at different elevation: +1m, +2m, +5m ... then I set the wall height. After the whole initial plan, I can not set the wall immediately, I
2017-03-11 09:13:50
doublehp
my issue is on choosing the workbench to establish the initial plan, on which I will choose the key points for other elements. The initial plan almost contains everything.
2017-03-11 13:21:12
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) https://cloud.blender.org/blog/cycles-turbocharged-how-we-made-rendering-10x-faster
2017-03-11 13:42:47
wondiws
hello
2017-03-11 13:46:52
wondiws
is it possible to regroup an existing model in FreeCAD?
2017-03-11 15:39:19
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) @ianrrees I am using clang
2017-03-11 15:49:28
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @looooo re using docker :+1:
2017-03-11 19:28:50
sankey
hi, i created a 2D sketch, and put it inside a Drawing with dimensions
2017-03-11 19:29:02
sankey
but when i change the sketch, the dimensions in the drawings do not follow
2017-03-11 19:29:15
sankey
is it possible in freecad to make drawings parametric?
2017-03-11 19:29:37
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) thanks @vejmarie - I got thrown off by the cmake file for opencamlib trying to add some unsupported openmp switches, just removing them seems to have got it working.
2017-03-11 19:30:11
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) sankey - yes, but not with the Drawing workbench, you'll instead want to use TechDraw which is the successor of Drawing
2017-03-11 19:30:18
sankey
ah
2017-03-11 19:30:37
sankey
is that available in 0.16?
2017-03-11 19:30:48
sankey
or do i need to upgrade to the freecad development version
2017-03-11 19:30:52
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) no, you'll either need to build from source or get one of the development versions
2017-03-11 19:30:56
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) what OS are you using?
2017-03-11 19:31:01
sankey
debian
2017-03-11 19:32:11
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) can debian use ubuntu packages? There's a PPA for the development version of FreeCAD
2017-03-11 19:33:13
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) otherwise, it's usually not too hard to get setup for building FreeCAD - https://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/CompileOnUnix
2017-03-11 19:34:57
sankey
okay, thanks
2017-03-11 19:38:28
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @bblacey - any thoughts about hosting a formula for opencamlib? It looks useful in the Path workbench
2017-03-11 19:38:58
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) no problem sankey - good luck and feel free to ask here or in the Install/Compile section of the forum if you have questions/problems
2017-03-11 19:40:04
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Just got back from coffee with @vejmarie - he is doing some great work for Open Hardware with FreeCAD - great vision and opportunity. Anyway, direct to your point - absolutely! Why not? You thinking start in homebrew-freecad and eventually submit to homebrew/science?
2017-03-11 19:43:37
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) exactly - there are a couple little things that'll need to be fixed upstream anyways
2017-03-11 19:44:21
sankey
how delightful! I found an old subdirectory on my hard drive with a compiled freecad 0.17 :D
2017-03-11 19:45:52
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) sankey - it'll be worth your time to do "git pull" in the source directory and rebuild
2017-03-11 20:44:08
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) @ianrrees @sankey AFAIK Ubuntu versions are usually based on a pull of Debian unstable at any given time, then all packages are rebuilt. While it may occasionally happen that library versions match between Debian stable and a given Ubuntu release, I do not recommend installing debian packages built for Ubuntu on Debian, chances are this will create conflicts with system libraries. But it would be easy enough to build debian packages o
2017-03-11 20:44:08
FreeCADBot1
from our Ubuntu packages. Basically copy the debian folder, download the occt 7.1.0 tarball, extract it, paste the debian folder in it, change the version in the debian/changelog text file, then in a terminal do 'debuild'. This will produce deb packages usable for your PC only.
2017-03-11 20:45:05
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) ahh, thanks @normandc !
2017-03-11 21:12:48
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) @bblacey @vejmarie getting coffee on the west coast... Things could be worse! :-D It's -19º C right now here, with windchill factor feels like -31º C. In Fahrenheit that's -2F/-35F...
2017-03-11 21:17:29
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Wow, I've got +39°C on you
2017-03-11 21:24:26
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) At least we won't be getting that snow the US East coast is due to get over the weekend!
2017-03-11 21:25:45
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) Kurt where are u ?
2017-03-11 21:25:53
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) near Houston
2017-03-11 21:26:26
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) @normandc good luck ! We are wearing shorts there
2017-03-11 21:26:44
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) @kkremitzki hey i was there 10 days ago
2017-03-11 21:26:59
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) I do work with Hpe
2017-03-11 21:27:39
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @bblacey - I'm a bit confused by OpenMP, there's lots of info on the 'net suggesting that clang as packaged with OSX doesn't support OpenMP, but I suspect that info is stale and the current does in fact support it. OpenCAMlib builds and appears to work with no OpenMP flags specified, but CMake fails at "find_package( OpenMP REQUIRED )".
2017-03-11 21:27:45
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Oh nice, that makes sense.. you should visit Austin too if you get a chance
2017-03-11 21:30:01
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) Was in Austin and San Antonio either (I do like San Antonio )
2017-03-11 21:30:25
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) @ianrrees you need the official clang not the one shipped by apple
2017-03-11 21:30:35
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Sounds like a lot of traveling
2017-03-11 21:30:41
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) The apple one is conservative
2017-03-11 21:31:13
FreeCADBot1
(vejmarie) @kkremitzki i live in a 777/787 don t do IT from France
2017-03-11 21:33:17
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @vejmarie - so your understanding then is that the Apple clang doesn't support OpenMP? If so, I'm still confused about why OpenCAMlib (which supposedly requires OpenMP) seems to build and work fine with the Apple clang.
2017-03-11 21:33:30
olspookishmagus
Select face -> Create new sketch
2017-03-11 21:34:00
olspookishmagus
how do I position the new sketch to use one of the faces corners as an alingment/start point of a rectangle to my sketch?
2017-03-11 21:35:17
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) olspookishmagus - there's a button in sketcher "Create an edge linked to an external geometry"
2017-03-11 21:35:44
olspookishmagus
ok, but that won't let me select a POINT
2017-03-11 21:36:26
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) an edge has points at the end. Maybe I'm not understanding what you are trying to do?
2017-03-11 21:36:59
olspookishmagus
that's another of the problems here - how to showcase what I'm trying to do and how to ask for help
2017-03-11 21:37:46
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) the forum is a good place to go for help - you can post images which help immensely
2017-03-11 21:37:53
olspookishmagus
it creates a "line" with an arbitrary length
2017-03-11 21:40:39
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @vejmarie - I'm hoping to get OpenCAMlib built with the default clang, because it provides a Python API so I think we would need to build FreeCAD (and whatever other Python libraries) with the same compiler for them to work together.
2017-03-11 21:41:26
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) olspookishmagus - are you saying the external geometry tool is creating an arbitrary length line?
2017-03-11 21:46:30
olspookishmagus
this is what I'm trying to do: https://imgur.com/a/EcP77 (the original part and my efforts)
2017-03-11 21:52:38
olspookishmagus
*cricket*
2017-03-11 21:57:03
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) @olspookishmagus your blurry picture is not much help to understand the problem you're having. It **is** possible to select points as external geometry in a sketch. Seriously, without a look at your file sorry but it's a waste of time to play the guessing game. @ianrrees sugested you to go to the FreeCAD forum to get help - that's a much better platform than IRC for such requests and all the FreeCAD expert users are there (including m
2017-03-11 21:57:32
olspookishmagus
ok I will do a more polished forum post there
2017-03-11 21:57:51
olspookishmagus
but please tell, me Sketchup does all sorts of snapping to midpoints, points, edges, corners
2017-03-11 21:58:05
olspookishmagus
how does one toggle that to happen in FreeCAD, is it possible?
2017-03-11 22:00:54
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) It is possible, you may want e.g. the Draft WB
2017-03-11 22:02:30
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) but with your picture you probably want to use Part Design WB (assuming you're using 0.16, the 0.17 part design is not finished), in that case you have the snapping behavior in sketcher
2017-03-11 22:02:34
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) when you make sketches that is
2017-03-11 22:21:35
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) hopefully we (drhooves AKA m4arkus) can get Arch Linux (and it's derivatives like Manjaro) good to go soon with compiling all the latest deps for FreeCAD. Qt5.6-webkit takes a loooong time to build even with 4 cores.
2017-03-11 22:22:00
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) OCC7.1.0 is also being problematic
2017-03-11 22:24:33
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) haven't tried netgen or vtk yet
2017-03-11 22:32:06
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) @ianrrees just a trivial FYI. On Arch opencamlib-git follows HEAD. There is no openCAMlib package.
2017-03-11 22:32:27
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) so no problem there per se
2017-03-11 23:06:09
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @normandc - yeah, walked about 2 miles to/from coffee because it was so warm out - about 18C ;)
2017-03-11 23:08:34
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @ianrrees - yeah, clang supports openmp - http://blog.llvm.org/2015/05/openmp-support_22.html
2017-03-11 23:09:36
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) ahh, I had seen that post but somehow missed the test program, thanks!
2017-03-11 23:11:52
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @ianrrees - maybe we need an openmp formula too ;) http://openmp.llvm.org
2017-03-11 23:12:02
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Surprised there isnât already one...
2017-03-11 23:12:47
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Ah wait, it looks like openmp is now part of the llvm formula.
2017-03-11 23:14:02
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38971394/brew-install-clang-omp-not-working or there is a clamp-opm in boneyard?? `brew install homebrew/boneyard/clamp-omp`
2017-03-11 23:14:43
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) But I think you are better off just installing the llvm port unless it is already part of clang in Xcode. Havenât checked.
2017-03-11 23:16:13
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @ianrrees - didnât see @vejmarieâs post but landed in the same spot. Even if you install llvm or boneyard to get the support, I think you might be able to just use the openmp library with the macos clang compiler.
2017-03-11 23:20:24
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) so my confusion about opencamlib needing openmp was basically a mismatch between their cmake config and the source code - the cmake said openmp is required, but it's conditional in the C++
2017-03-11 23:21:20
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) so I'll install the Homebrew llvm and see if I can build with it with the OpenMP from there
2017-03-11 23:24:39
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Even though llvm is effectively Apple, not surprised that they donât ship openmp support. They want everyone to use [GCD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_Dispatch) for parallelism instead.
2017-03-11 23:32:16
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) right, and in the grand scheme of things the OpenMP support in clang is still fairly new
2017-03-12 01:06:55
pac1
Hi.
2017-03-12 01:17:56
nilsson
hey
2017-03-12 01:20:27
pac1
I"m building a flight simulator and want to use Freecad to design parts on which instruments, controls and switches can be mounted. I have a list of over 100 measurements of the various parts and would like to take a scripted approach to construction. I have the Freecad daily build installed and am reading the getting started part of the wiki and skimming the gitter im channel. I'd like to converse with someone knowledgable to
2017-03-12 01:20:27
pac1
learn more about how to set up the project and how to proceed.
2017-03-12 01:45:08
sankey
Hi, i'm using freecad from the latest git revision and i'm experimenting with the new TechDraw module
2017-03-12 01:45:35
sankey
i want to put dimensions on a sketch, but it looks like i can only put dimensions on "parts" in the TechDraw module
2017-03-12 01:46:34
sankey
if i slightly extrude the sketch, i can put it in a techdraw page and select verticies and add dimensions, but I'm suspicious of this approach
2017-03-12 01:47:28
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) sankey - that's an interesting question, we made TechDraw with drawing 3d objects in mind
2017-03-12 01:47:41
nilsson
pac1, I wouldn't consider myself a freecad expert, but I think it will be difficult to script the design of a lot of parts
2017-03-12 01:47:50
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) so you're trying to go straight from a sketch to a TechDraw drawing?
2017-03-12 01:48:05
sankey
yes, basically
2017-03-12 01:48:41
sankey
ultimately it is a 3D part in the real world, but I was thinking i could skip some steps in CAD by only doing a sketch of the profile
2017-03-12 01:48:55
sankey
(it is a cargo bicycle)
2017-03-12 01:49:40
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) If you don't mind - how about making a post on the forum to describe your intended workflow (and make sure it has TechDraw in the subject). Wandererfan (who does most of the work on TechDraw) is on the forum regularly
2017-03-12 01:50:41
sankey
sure
2017-03-12 01:51:42
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) There was a lot of difficulty in linking the 3D shapes from OpenCascade (the geometry kernel we use in FreeCAD) with the 2D representations in TechDraw, but I would guess what you're describing should be possible to make work.
2017-03-12 01:52:56
pac1
nilsson, the scripting part is to allow building many similar parts using a script to repeat a basic operation. My understanding is that everything done in the ue results in some kind of python script, which can be modified to change the end result.
2017-03-12 02:00:24
nilsson
pac1, there is a python console, and a spreadsheet module that lets you use variables in your models
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