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2017-03-14 11:38:12
XXCoder
hey
2017-03-14 11:38:25
XXCoder
how do I increase number of sides when i want to export to dxf
2017-03-14 11:40:29
simonvdv
Does anyone know where in the sources or cmake files the location where the modules live (/usr/Mod by default) is defined?
2017-03-14 11:42:13
simonvdv
seems like its AppHomePath + /Mod
2017-03-14 11:44:52
simonvdv
now to find where AppHomePath is defined
2017-03-14 13:25:12
sushi_
hello
2017-03-14 13:25:29
sushi_
in sketch mode, is it possible to copy paste some geometries ?
2017-03-14 13:41:44
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) sushi_ there are buttons to the right of all constraints
2017-03-14 13:42:13
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) That's as much as can be done.
2017-03-14 13:48:09
sushi_
what buttons ?
2017-03-14 13:48:36
sushi_
I mean if i select a rectangle for instance and would like to duplicate it, ctrl+c ctrl+v is disabled..
2017-03-14 14:00:47
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) sushi_ the shortcuts don't work, but you can make a clone
2017-03-14 14:00:57
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) what version are you using?
2017-03-14 14:01:22
sushi_
0.15 rev 4671
2017-03-14 14:01:57
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) oh... I can't help at all in that case I guess
2017-03-14 14:02:04
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) [![Screenshot from 2017-03-14 19-31-12.png](https://files.gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/ohWj/thumb/Screenshot-from-2017-03-14-19-31-12.png)](https://files.gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/ohWj/Screenshot-from-2017-03-14-19-31-12.png)
2017-03-14 14:04:33
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) Trying to obtain a 0.16 from somewhere is the best bet for you
2017-03-14 14:06:40
sushi_
ok, thank, i try to do that
2017-03-14 14:15:12
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) sushi_ you could also go for the 0.17 daily, but not for any "production" use
2017-03-14 14:16:53
sushi_
ah yes, clone is here now
2017-03-14 14:16:55
sushi_
thank you !
2017-03-14 14:18:35
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) What OS are you on?
2017-03-14 14:18:54
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) simply out of curiosity
2017-03-14 14:19:43
sushi_
ubuntu 16.04
2017-03-14 14:21:28
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) how did you switch to 0.16? I use just the daily and the one on repo, but newer bothered to get the 0.16
2017-03-14 14:22:16
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) there are two PPAs for stable and daily
2017-03-14 14:22:50
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) https://launchpad.net/~freecad-maintainers/+archive/ubuntu/freecad-stable
2017-03-14 14:23:16
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) any difficulty in putting 0.16 on the regular repo?
2017-03-14 14:24:46
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Yes, it isn't possible
2017-03-14 14:24:58
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) It's the point of an LTS release
2017-03-14 14:25:26
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) hmm
2017-03-14 14:26:49
sushi_
yes, the ubuntu repo offers 0.15, the ppa 0.16
2017-03-14 14:58:41
simonvdv
@ianrrees,PR for the CMake fixes for the icons is up https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/pull/617 :)
2017-03-14 16:33:44
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) somonvdv - cool! I saw the PR this morning, haven't had a chance to read changes in any detail but will try to after work
2017-03-14 17:09:44
simonvanderveldt
@ianrrees sure, np, I expect some feedback and some more work will be needed, but we'll see :)
2017-03-14 20:04:31
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Anyone here use OpenSUSE?
2017-03-14 20:20:53
fhew
I'm new to freeCAD and 3D printing, and have an issue with missing attributes of my design when I import it into Slic3r and Reptier, can anyone help?
2017-03-14 20:25:12
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Hi fhew. Not sure who's active in IRC or the gitter chat currently. But if you have a detailed problem you might be better off making a new post in the help section of forum.freecadweb.org
2017-03-14 20:26:47
fhew
I thought I'd try here for an interactive response before joining and trying a forum posting
2017-03-14 20:42:44
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) I'd be glad to help if I could but I don't have a 3d printer and thus haven't used much of that side of FreeCAD
2017-03-14 20:51:59
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) anyone familiar with javascript? I would like to display freecad-objects in a jupyter-notebook with the help of this library: http://osgjs.org/ . But struggeling with the basics of html and javascript...
2017-03-14 21:00:07
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) I have some familiarity with JS
2017-03-14 21:02:16
nilsson
fhew what attributes are missing?
2017-03-14 21:08:11
simonvanderveldt
@kkremitzki Regarding opensuse, why are you asking?
2017-03-14 21:11:47
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Ah, nevermind, I was testing a bug someone reported on OpenSUSE and I'm not familiar with it, but I figured out my issue with more Googling
2017-03-14 21:12:12
simonvanderveldt
@kkremitzki ok :)
2017-03-14 21:12:19
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Thanks though
2017-03-14 21:12:35
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) It's pretty interesting, that was my first time using it
2017-03-14 21:13:32
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) BTW anyone else having issues with the Start WB on the ubuntu daily PPA? It seems fine on a fresh build from source, but the background and icons are missing in the PPA version
2017-03-14 21:16:26
simonvanderveldt
@kkremitzki, I was already wondering about that, noticed the same when I just built from master
2017-03-14 21:17:05
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Wait, so you are missing the background/icons on a build from master? Or you saw it in the PPA version as well?
2017-03-14 21:17:27
simonvanderveldt
@kkremitzki build from master, I'm trying to fix the git/master ebuild for gentoo
2017-03-14 21:17:41
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Ahh, odd
2017-03-14 21:17:45
simonvanderveldt
but I did also download the deb from the PPA to check where the files end up there, in the same location
2017-03-14 21:18:09
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Yeah, I worked on the Start WB recently and moved all the icons on that folder to a dedicated folder
2017-03-14 21:19:38
simonvanderveldt
well, there are hardcoded paths in the html file to the images, but when building/installing the actual images don't up in the images directory but in the same directory as the html file
2017-03-14 21:20:06
simonvanderveldt
hardcoded as in relative hardcoded, so "images/<someimage>"
2017-03-14 21:20:35
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) they should be getting put in an images folder though
2017-03-14 21:20:41
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) not sure why it's failing to do that
2017-03-14 21:21:21
simonvanderveldt
I think the set in the cmake file doesn't preserve directory structure
2017-03-14 21:21:30
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Ahh
2017-03-14 21:21:33
simonvanderveldt
https://github.com/simonvanderveldt/FreeCAD/blob/master/src/Mod/Start/CMakeLists.txt#L10
2017-03-14 21:21:41
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Yup that's what I was looking at
2017-03-14 21:22:09
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) I'm not really familiar enough with cmake though to know how to resolve that
2017-03-14 21:26:57
simonvanderveldt
@kkremitzki, I'm not sure either but if just handling files it probably makes sense to use DIRECTORY https://cmake.org/cmake/help/v3.8/command/install.html?highlight=structure#installing-directories
2017-03-14 21:27:48
simonvanderveldt
don't know if there are files in there that shouldn't be installed?
2017-03-14 21:28:02
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) They all should be
2017-03-14 21:28:30
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Yeah I know there are other things living in Mod that have a similar structure that I was going for so I can examine those cmake files
2017-03-14 21:29:33
simonvanderveldt
SO knows ;) http://stackoverflow.com/a/23766303
2017-03-14 21:29:37
simonvanderveldt
pretty simply actually
2017-03-14 21:29:58
simonvanderveldt
s/y/e
2017-03-14 21:33:57
simonvanderveldt
also don't really understand the distinction between StartPage_Scripts and StartPage_Resources resources there, there are python files in the list of resources as well
2017-03-14 21:34:34
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) they are used https://github.com/simonvanderveldt/FreeCAD/blob/master/src/Mod/Start/StartPage/CMakeLists.txt
2017-03-14 21:34:39
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) used there^
2017-03-14 21:35:35
simonvanderveldt
yeah, which means they get installed to the data/resources directory (under /usr/share), not sure if that's correct for those python files
2017-03-14 21:36:07
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Yeah, it's unusual but correct
2017-03-14 21:36:22
simonvanderveldt
k
2017-03-14 21:36:42
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) the start WB is really just a webpage and for example to open recent file #1 it just has a <a> element linking to LoadMRU0.py
2017-03-14 21:36:56
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) same thing with the examples and stuff
2017-03-14 21:39:44
simonvanderveldt
ah, makes sense
2017-03-14 21:40:02
simonvanderveldt
I actually think it's easier to just create a resources directory and put all the resources there
2017-03-14 21:40:46
simonvanderveldt
then you can just add that directory with INSTALL(DIRECTORY ...)
2017-03-14 21:46:04
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Giving it a shot now
2017-03-14 21:50:13
simonvanderveldt
@kkremitzki, cool! If you need a review for a PR I can have a look tomorrow
2017-03-14 21:58:36
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) @kkremitzki I get a `TypeError: OSG is undefined` when trying some tutorials from there site. I tried to import the library with this command (taken from a d3 example):
2017-03-14 21:58:36
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) `%%javascript
2017-03-14 21:58:36
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) require.config({
2017-03-14 21:58:36
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) [full message: https://gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD?at=58c8680c00c00c3d4f0a28fb]
2017-03-14 22:02:54
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) I do not really understand how the require thing work. The osgjs tutorials have the libraries directly "imported" in the html code.
2017-03-14 22:03:46
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) and so when you run node on the file containing that you get the error?
2017-03-14 22:04:32
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) I run it in the jupyter notebook with %%javascript
2017-03-14 22:05:00
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) and %%HTML
2017-03-14 22:05:03
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) hmm well I don't know how the %%javascript magic works but presumably its calling node
2017-03-14 22:06:13
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) But the fact that the error is capitalized suggests something in osgjs.org/builds/dist/OSG.js is failing
2017-03-14 22:06:53
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Trying it in jupyter notebook seems like it will add a fair bit of complexity when debugging
2017-03-14 22:07:29
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) You may want to try creating a folder and putting some simple html+js stuff in there, and then just run `python3 -m http.server <port>` in that folder to test stuff
2017-03-14 22:07:36
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ok, I thought this would be easier. Never done anything with javascript
2017-03-14 22:07:51
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) The javascript ecosystem is pure hell
2017-03-14 22:08:37
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) I can't wait for web assembly to pick up speed
2017-03-14 22:09:37
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) before too long there will hopefully be a Python DOM API library for web assembly... there's already a transpiler called Transcrypt
2017-03-14 22:10:49
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) puh, all new stuff to me.
2017-03-14 22:12:28
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) well good luck and I'm glad to help, just be careful about complexity
2017-03-14 22:12:49
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) thanks for the hint, will try
2017-03-15 01:07:38
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) @berndhahnebach do you mind filling out the min and max dep version for FEM in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ar6FyCoRdxFBgx5huSU9Zl655AHlbZpe8z9XLgtRMUE/edit#gid=0 ?
2017-03-15 01:20:48
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @bblacey - have you tried updating PySide and friends to tips lately?
2017-03-15 04:05:01
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @ianrrees - no… @f3nix mentioned that the qt.io guys broke Qt earlier than 5.6.2 but that doesn’t matter on macOS. Looks like they are making good progress on shiboken/clang for later versions of Qt...
2017-03-15 04:08:59
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @bblacey - yes, I tried with the qt5 port (so 5.8.something) against shiboken 10991bf26 and pyside 7ad6e19 - made it a few percent in to building pyside before it failed
2017-03-15 04:10:06
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) seems to still be a C++ parsing problem, tried the qt@5.7 port and it failed similarly
2017-03-15 04:10:15
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @ianrrees - I don’t think (but haven’t confirmed), that they have integrated the clang parser into the dev version of shiboken that is required for Qt 5.7+.
2017-03-15 04:10:27
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) So what about latest with Qt 5.6.2?
2017-03-15 04:10:34
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) seems to work fine
2017-03-15 04:11:12
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) It will be interesting to see their blog updates Wed/Thu...
2017-03-15 04:12:04
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) I saw where @F3nix was using a later version of Qt circa 5.7ish - wondering if he installed Pyside/Shiboken and then upgrade Qt...
2017-03-15 04:12:51
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) or perhaps he just disabled the problematic Qt module(s) - I didn't try just building the core and working out from there
2017-03-15 04:13:00
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) procrastination pays
2017-03-15 04:13:07
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) LoL :D
2017-03-15 07:35:33
hao
Hello everyone, this is Hao, I am an environmental engineer and interested in the project of building the interface between freeCAD and Elmersolver.
2017-03-15 07:36:40
hao
I don't know if here is the right place to talk about it?
2017-03-15 07:37:57
hao
Someone can give me some suggestion on the proposal
2017-03-15 07:58:42
trygvis
hao: will work, but I think the forums is the most active place so I would try there too
2017-03-15 08:01:36
hao
thanks
2017-03-15 08:38:39
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) I'm trying to do a git bisect, but can someone tell me how to temporarily roll back to a commit to check if it's okay, so that I have the first git bisect good?
2017-03-15 08:48:07
Thewar
Hi! I am Thewar. A 3rd year student at NUST(National Institute of Information and Technology) Pakistan. I am interested in working on one of the suggested projects of FreeCAD. Do I discuss the project before I submit my proposal officially?
2017-03-15 12:12:45
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) THewar, Great! Yes, but please introduce yourself to the community via the forum.freecadweb.org and elaborate on your interests and why you'd like to work on said FreeCAD project. It's also good to show any previous work you've done. Setup a dev environment that you can hack FreeCAD in and also take a look at the bugtracker to demonstrate some of your coding skills. :+1:
2017-03-15 14:02:40
doublehp
when I remove an element that has constraints, and, undo action, only element comes back, not constraints; is it known bug ?
2017-03-15 14:03:44
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) doublehp: I assume you are referring to sketcher?
2017-03-15 14:03:51
doublehp
yes
2017-03-15 14:13:08
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) doublehp: what version of freecad are you using?
2017-03-15 14:13:21
doublehp
0.16
2017-03-15 14:15:41
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) It seems to be working as on 0.17.10291, the daily I have
2017-03-15 16:14:49
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @AjinkyaDahale - regarding git bisect - you can "roll back" by just checking out an earlier commit as usual
2017-03-15 16:15:51
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) you'll probably find that it's easiest to set the older commit based on what will build in your environment with the least headache
2017-03-15 16:16:29
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) hao - O
2017-03-15 16:17:33
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) Hao - I'd really like to see elmersolver integration, and would second the suggestion to post on the FEM section of the forum
2017-03-15 18:10:44
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) http://venturebeat.com/2017/03/15/gitlab-acquires-software-chat-startup-gitter-will-open-source-the-code/
2017-03-15 18:48:06
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) @ianrrees oddly I could go back a whole year that way (well, halfway to there in terms of number of commits)
2017-03-15 19:06:20
Almisuifre
Salutations \0/
2017-03-15 20:01:10
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @AjinkyaDahale - that's not odd really - you can check out all the way back to when we started using git. Whether you can get a representative build (to know if your bug is there or not) for the bisect is a different question.
2017-03-15 20:08:22
FreeCADBot1
(AjinkyaDahale) @ianrrees my bad, I meant without the headaches you mentioned. The fact that we can go back as far as the initial commit is not really surprising indeed.
2017-03-15 20:19:54
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) @kkremitzki re: gitlab aquiring gitter, good for them :)
2017-03-15 20:20:39
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) They're also open sourcing the gitter code which is good for us
2017-03-15 20:20:43
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) for everyone*
2017-03-15 20:31:30
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) right!
2017-03-16 14:43:16
sliptonic
!seen yorik
2017-03-16 14:44:55
sliptonic
Hi yorik. Have you had a chance to look at the Arch Panel subelement sorting yet?
2017-03-16 14:45:05
yorik
Hi sliptonic
2017-03-16 14:45:13
yorik
no actually it slipped out of my mind...
2017-03-16 14:45:20
yorik
good that you remind me :)
2017-03-16 14:46:28
yorik
I'll have a look at it this afternoon
2017-03-16 14:46:41
sliptonic
That would be great. I'm cleaning up a bunch of little things I've been picking at for a while. I'd like to include my panel stuff too.
2017-03-16 14:48:25
yorik
did you know about that CAM tool for inkscape?
2017-03-16 14:48:32
yorik
Someone told me about it yesterday
2017-03-16 14:48:46
yorik
http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/2221-Free-CAM-for-Inkscape
2017-03-16 14:48:55
sliptonic
I know there is one (actually a couple) I use one of them (gcodetools) for generating paths for my laser.
2017-03-16 14:49:04
yorik
yes thats the one
2017-03-16 14:49:16
yorik
i had never heard of it
2017-03-16 14:49:28
sliptonic
It does some interesting things but can be a real pain.
2017-03-16 14:50:14
sliptonic
Wow, I hadn't even seen the lathe stuff. That might be interesting to study.
2017-03-16 14:53:18
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) yorik, is it OK to close https://freecadweb.org/tracker/view.php?id=2954 ?
2017-03-16 14:54:12
yorik
yes i think so
2017-03-16 14:54:48
yorik
it is marked as resolved already...
2017-03-16 14:54:54
yorik
just forgot to close probably
2017-03-16 14:55:21
yorik
done.
2017-03-16 14:57:02
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) I'm not absolutely sure the source-integration plugin for mantisbt is working optimally
2017-03-16 14:57:11
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) keeping an eye on it
2017-03-16 16:15:25
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Quick question for anyone who's here: addons manager vs addon manager. Which do you prefer? the 1st seems grammatically incorrect but is perhaps more common. When I upstreamed the "Addons Manager" macro I changed it to "Addon Manager" for that reason but I was just curious about what others thought
2017-03-16 16:28:26
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) second is better IMHO.
2017-03-16 16:28:52
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) is it managing add ons or modules?
2017-03-16 16:29:07
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) modules and macros
2017-03-16 16:30:55
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) hmm, I almost feel like "addon" isn't the right word either then, because FreeCAD wouldn't be very useful without modules
2017-03-16 16:31:34
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) Yeah, I think in Libreoffice they call it "Extension Manager" which might be more apt
2017-03-16 16:31:49
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) my guess is that we'll eventually split up the project to a degree, so that there's a sharper distinction between the core and the modules, but that's obviously just speculation.
2017-03-16 16:31:54
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) since it's just getting non-core extensions
2017-03-16 16:38:32
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) what do you think about "components", like "FreeCAD components" or something like that?
2017-03-16 17:39:36
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) I'm not sure that's any better than addons
2017-03-16 19:04:56
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) Pyside Update:
2017-03-16 19:04:56
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) > - Coin
2017-03-16 19:04:56
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) - the fixes are still integrating or are under review (no further progress until this is done)
2017-03-16 19:04:56
FreeCADBot1
(luzpaz) [full message: https://gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD?at=58cae256a84f611959b18279]
2017-03-16 19:13:10
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) The main changes we're waiting for (switch to clang C++ parser in Shiboken) are referenced under https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/PYSIDE-323 . They're in code review and seem to be making steady progress.
2017-03-16 20:53:14
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) is there a reason for this: FreeCAD-Cmake line 855
2017-03-16 20:53:14
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ```
2017-03-16 20:53:14
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) if(BUILD_QT5)
2017-03-16 20:53:14
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) [full message: https://gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD?at=58cafbb8b809ca5f4a50a4dc]
2017-03-16 20:58:54
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) But there must be something else wrong with qt5. Seems it is only finding pythonLibs 2.7 in a directory from another enviroment. Seems CMake is a bit confused :-)
2017-03-16 20:58:54
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ```Could NOT find PythonLibs: Found unsuitable version "2.7.12", but required is exact version "3.5.3"```
2017-03-16 21:17:57
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @looooo - IIRC the commented out line above is related to finding the appropriate Python interpreter on MacOS
2017-03-16 21:18:35
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ahh, I haven't see that, thanks
2017-03-16 21:19:09
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) The issue is that there's a system Python that comes with MacOS, but most people who would be compiling FreeCAD have at least one other install. The CMake bundled script finds the system Python by default, so you would end up with a mismatching interpreter, libraries, and headers.
2017-03-16 21:20:09
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) So, what happens in the current main line is that we find the Python interpreter on the path (IIRC, bit hazy now), then call it to ask for the include and library directories
2017-03-16 21:21:09
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I think it might be possible to replace a lot of that by using python-config
2017-03-16 21:22:26
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) is there such a thing?
2017-03-16 21:22:56
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) yes, it's a binary that's often (maybe always?) available in the same place as the Python interpreter
2017-03-16 21:23:36
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ah ok, this would maybe simplify some things
2017-03-16 21:23:36
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) eg `Ians-MacBook-Pro:freecad-code irees$ python-config --libs
2017-03-16 21:23:36
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) -lpython2.7 -ldl -framework CoreFoundation`
2017-03-16 21:24:23
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) gah, you get the idea :) - the "--libs" is the only input argument, the rest is the output
2017-03-16 21:26:01
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) the Python3 version is python3-config
2017-03-16 21:26:25
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) this could be a good idea for multi-python systems
2017-03-16 21:28:13
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) but I haven't understand why there is a problem with choosing python with qt5 while it isn't with qt4
2017-03-16 21:29:51
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I imagine it's because PySide2 needs a different PYTHON_BASENAME ?
2017-03-16 21:34:40
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I'll try a Qt5 build with that snippet changed back to the old way like this:
2017-03-16 21:35:00
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) `set(PYTHON_SUFFIX -python${PYTHON_VERSION_MAJOR}.${PYTHON_VERSION_MINOR})
2017-03-16 21:35:00
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) set(PYTHON_BASENAME -python${PYTHON_VERSION_MAJOR}.${PYTHON_VERSION_MINOR})`
2017-03-16 21:35:22
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) hmm as far as i know, the PYTHON_BASENAME does not have to be set. The shiboken / pyside - config have a default python version which is choosen by default.
2017-03-16 21:36:38
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) maybe that is or was broken in PySide2?
2017-03-16 21:36:39
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) with qt4 we do it like this:
2017-03-16 21:36:39
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ```
2017-03-16 21:36:39
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) if (PYTHON_VERSION_MAJOR LESS 3)
2017-03-16 21:36:39
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) [full message: https://gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD?at=58cb05e56d7eb18404d6400f]
2017-03-16 21:37:17
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) I think this should work also with qt5
2017-03-16 21:37:53
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) probably - the major and minor variables are a remnant from when Python2 didn't always mean 2.7
2017-03-16 21:38:22
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I think it's cleaner to use major.minor though, because they could be set to 2.7, 3.6, etc
2017-03-16 21:39:00
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) we end up needing the separate parts in some other places (eg the MacOS application bundling script)
2017-03-16 21:43:03
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) yea that would be possible. But I don't think freecad is still building with python less then 2.7. So less 3 = 2.7. But for sure it would be nice to have some consistency regarding python-version checks
2017-03-16 21:43:56
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) what version of qt5 are you using on mac to build with freecad?
2017-03-16 21:52:15
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) > Quick question for anyone who's here: addons manager vs addon manager. Which do you prefer? the 1st seems grammatically incorrect but is perhaps more common. When I upstreamed the "Addons Manager" macro I changed it to "Addon Manager" for that reason but I was just curious about what others thought
2017-03-16 21:52:16
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) I like add-ons because it's managing more than one. FireFox uses this term.
2017-03-16 21:52:16
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan)
2017-03-16 21:53:17
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) I like add-ons because it's managing more than one. FireFox uses this term.
2017-03-16 21:59:33
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) @normandc has an issue in the tracker to make FreeCAD more modular. wmayer seems to support the idea. So in the future we may have FreeCAD-core, FreeCAD-modules, and 3rd-Party Add-ons.
2017-03-16 22:02:32
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @looooo - I was meaning more that if we just use the major.minor, that we don't need to have the 'if(python3)' as often
2017-03-16 22:03:20
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @sgrogan - I think it would be worth making it a bit more granular even, so like: core, mechanical, architectural, 3rd parth
2017-03-16 22:06:05
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) @ianrrees I agree FreeCAD-moduals is plural. With the pure python wb's this is straight forward. Mixed C++/Python wb's like FEM and Path is more difficult. I believe you did some work a while ago about cross-wb dependencies?
2017-03-16 22:07:06
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) sure, it is an interesting problem to consider
2017-03-16 22:07:57
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) the only work I've done around that was setting up the cmake file a bit differently so that it wouldn't just blindly include things you had specifically asked it not to
2017-03-16 22:08:40
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) eg if I said "don't build Part", then another module required Part, cmake used to just build Part anyways
2017-03-16 22:09:08
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) Hmm I don't get it. You mean the #if PY_MAJOR_VERSION > 3 preprocessor lines?
2017-03-16 22:09:08
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) The Qt5 adventure has also ended.... ```UnsatisfiableError: The following specifications were found to be in conflict:
2017-03-16 22:09:08
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) - qt 5.6.2*``
2017-03-16 22:09:08
FreeCADBot1
(looooo)
2017-03-16 22:10:52
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) > eg if I said "don't build Part", then another module required Part, cmake used to just build Part anyways
2017-03-16 22:12:10
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) exactly, this is the challenge. I want the other module to work that depends on part but I don't want part. What to do?
2017-03-16 22:12:39
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) I mean where we curently have:
2017-03-16 22:12:39
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) ```
2017-03-16 22:12:39
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) if (PYTHON_VERSION_MAJOR LESS 3)
2017-03-16 22:12:39
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) [full message: https://gitter.im/FreeCAD/FreeCAD?at=58cb0e556d7eb18404d666ce]
2017-03-16 22:13:28
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @looooo - I'm using Qt 5.6.2 currently
2017-03-16 22:16:46
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ah, now I see. I think we are only using this with python2.7. Python3 isn't strictly 3.5. I think python3.6 should also work. But there I have no dependencies available, so I have never tested this.
2017-03-16 22:17:04
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) right, so we should make the cmake file as version-agnostic as possble
2017-03-16 22:17:33
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) got it :-)
2017-03-16 22:17:38
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) cool
2017-03-16 22:18:07
FreeCADBot1
(ianrrees) @sgrogan - we changed it to do what you ask, but warn if it knows you're asking for something dumb :)
2017-03-16 22:18:10
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) @looooo Do you have a working netgen 6.x on your conda builds?
2017-03-16 22:18:39
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) > @sgrogan - we changed it to do what you ask, but warn if it knows you're asking for something dumb :)
2017-03-16 22:19:34
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) I understand but this is a challenge to make FreeCAD more modular. There are a lot of permutations and combinations.
2017-03-16 22:19:56
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) @sgrogan https://anaconda.org/freecad/netgen/files but only python3.5. I have also tried to create one with python2.7 but there were some bigger problems...
2017-03-16 22:20:21
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) Does it work without the python bindings?
2017-03-16 22:20:47
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) It compiles but there was no mesh output
2017-03-16 22:22:38
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) Thanks @normandc was able to upgrade the PPA to occt7.1. So we are trying to build netgen. As you know netgen 6.x supports CMake so it is desirable.
2017-03-16 22:23:00
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) I have one older netgen (6.1) which doesn't have python bindings. But this one is compiled with occt7.0.0
2017-03-16 22:24:57
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) Yeah 6.1 should work without bindings. but there were some other patches necessary to make it work with occt > 7. This patches were included in the current master of netgen (6.2).
2017-03-16 22:25:04
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) @looooo can you post here https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17501&p=165766#p165709 your input would be extemely useful
2017-03-16 22:27:27
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) I will try to gather the things that were necessary for 6.1. and make another conda-package with occt.7.1. If this works, I can post the steps towards this.
2017-03-16 22:31:21
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) Thanks, If you know the source patch, it may be enough to proceed. Right now we just need to decide to go with ng 6.x or ng 5.3.x.
2017-03-16 22:32:01
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @sgrogan - I thought @normandc had nglib 5.3.1 working/building?
2017-03-16 22:32:55
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) @bblacey he built locally but we are are issues with the deb packaging. Same link as above.
2017-03-16 22:33:09
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Ok - checking...
2017-03-16 22:35:08
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) Remember this? https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13341 :clap:
2017-03-16 22:35:18
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Hmmm, if it is a matter of patching configure.ac, I can easily modify the patchset for @normandc… No harm in patching both. I’m not familiar with designing PPAs but I guess Linux PPAs build from automake and not configure…
2017-03-16 22:37:21
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) Evidently, but I'm not sure. @normandc isn't a regular here so any hints on the forum are appreciated.
2017-03-16 22:38:18
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @sgrogan - no harm in patching both, I will take a look, update and post accordingly…
2017-03-16 22:38:52
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) @bblacey are there issues on osx with scipy like this https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21364
2017-03-16 22:42:37
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) I think this one was the version I have used for 6.1. The 6.0.0 isn't right there. https://github.com/looooo/netgen/releases/tag/6.0.0-conda Maybe its possible to create patches from that tag.
2017-03-16 22:48:58
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) @sgrogan - nglib occt7 patch set update and posted to the forum for @normandc and gdo35. Now looking at the scipy question
2017-03-16 22:51:43
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) Thanks, I ask because I think OSX doesn;t use a default Python, gcc seems very tolerant, VS has zero tolerance, don't know about clang.
2017-03-16 22:58:47
FreeCADBot1
(bblacey) Yeah on macOS, we explicitly avoid using the system python… The FreeCAD bundle includes the python interpreter with the associated site-packages “path’ed” (is that a word?) to the bundle. This avoids these types of conflicts. So on Linux, .appimages would accomplish the same thing (I think) but no clue about Windows - is there a way to accomplish the same thing on Windows? (i.e. run an isolated python interpreter configured
2017-03-16 22:58:47
FreeCADBot1
site-packages and exclude all others?)
2017-03-16 23:01:13
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) That's exactly what we do on Windows. Are python is self compiled with VS2013 (Thanks Peterl94) but it means we can't use any of the python universe packages that have compiled extensions. Add to that, there is no opensource
2017-03-16 23:01:37
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) Fotran compiler
2017-03-16 23:01:54
FreeCADBot1
(sgrogan) So ScyPy is imposssible.
2017-03-16 23:34:34
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) @sgrogan netgen6.2 definetly isn't working for with freecad and python2.7. no idea what that means.
2017-03-16 23:34:34
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ```
2017-03-16 23:34:34
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) NETGEN_2D failed on sub-shape #13 with error COMPERR_NO_MESH_ON_SHAPE...
2017-03-16 23:34:34
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) ```
2017-03-16 23:40:43
FreeCADBot1
(looooo) so if you want to go the hard way you could try to reactivate the 6.1. But maybe it is really easier to use version 5.3 without cmake.
2017-03-17 01:38:01
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) @looooo yes, that's why we're going with netgen 5.3.1: path of least resistance... @sgrogan I still positively and passionately loathe IRC but I started making daily visits to Gitter in the evenings. (At least) three things Gitter has going is a log even if I'm not logged in, it highlights where I've been mentioned/replied to (nice) and I can see whether people are connected/active or not. Now that's a chat system that is not stuck in
2017-03-17 01:39:18
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) plus, Gitlab just bought Gitter and is open sourcing it
2017-03-17 01:47:35
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) @kkremitzki read your link last night, cool!
2017-03-17 01:53:49
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) @normandc did you see the talk earlier about "addon" vs "addons" manager? I'm curious what your thoughts are on it
2017-03-17 02:08:46
FreeCADBot1
(normandc) @kkremitzki to be honest English is not my first language... But I prefer grammatically correct terms. Not sure about Components, it's not a widely used term (not even in FreeCAD) so it may confuse new users. Add-on is term known by a lot of people and it's generic enough to encompass anything (macros, modules). I personally prefer the version with hyphen but I understand both forms (with or without) are accepted. IMO it should only r
2017-03-17 02:08:46
FreeCADBot1
outside of the FreeCAD code base, i.e. the community. You seemed to infer it could eventually be used to install modules from the FreeCAD code base?
2017-03-17 02:11:25
FreeCADBot1
(kkremitzki) I wasn't trying to give that impression, I agree that the purpose of it is making it useful for 3rd parties to extend FreeCAD functionality. The point about hyphenation is correct as well, it should really have it. My main question was about addon vs addons
2017-03-17 02:35:53
FreeCADBot2
(normandc) @ianrrees not to mention that "feature" is used to designate the operations made in PartDesign workbench! It is a widely-used term in parametric CAD software.
2017-03-17 02:37:09
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) I have a vague memory of "something feature feature" being a reasonable name inside TechDraw, but could've been a bad dream.
2017-03-17 02:38:07
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) grammar-wise, I'm pretty sure "add-on manager" is righter than "add-ons manager"
2017-03-17 02:38:41
FreeCADBot2
(normandc) @kkremitzki another go at the Add-on / Add-ons matter: I think it should be "Add-on Manager" if that's grammatically correct, a possible alternative would be to name it "Manage Add-ons..." instead. Then using the plural form would be grammatically correct ;-)
2017-03-17 02:39:12
FreeCADBot2
(normandc) @ianrrees was faster than me...
2017-03-17 02:39:14
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) perhaps this is a good topic for the UX forum
2017-03-17 02:39:18
FreeCADBot2
(kkremitzki) We could do as Firefox does which is just have a button "Add-ons"
2017-03-17 02:39:46
FreeCADBot2
(normandc) @kkremitzki that would be fine too!
2017-03-17 02:40:15
FreeCADBot2
(normandc) @ianrrees +1
2017-03-17 02:41:23
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) I like the "Add-ons" more than giving the thing a proper name - that way it's easier to change if someone has a better idea.
2017-03-17 02:42:14
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) ooh, or in that case it's almost reasonable for the button to say "Modules and Macros"
2017-03-17 02:42:35
FreeCADBot2
(kkremitzki) yeah, and that's more descriptive too
2017-03-17 04:41:34
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) @bblacey (or anyone else) - do you know if it's possible to get homebrew to run arbitrary ruby code from a command line? I sometimes want to see what it would return from an expression in a formula, without actually running the formula, but don't know how.
2017-03-17 04:43:45
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) @ian - I tend to use `irb` for non-hombrew-specific expressions. There is a way to drop into irb from home-brew but I think it is only if you encounter an error when using —debug - you can choose irb as one of the exception options.
2017-03-17 04:44:09
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) I have searched for that capability as well in the past and haven’t found anything so if you do, please send it my way ;)
2017-03-17 04:45:35
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) will do
2017-03-17 04:50:42
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) Just learned there is a `brew irb`
2017-03-17 04:52:20
FreeCADBot2
(bblacey) @ianrrees - that looks like the way to go `brew irb —examples`
2017-03-17 04:56:55
FreeCADBot2
(ianrrees) aha, very cool, thanks!
2017-03-17 06:35:10
Gegsite
how can I design this in freecad? http://imgur.com/a/iJv5a
2017-03-17 09:02:37
FreeCADBot2
(AjinkyaDahale) Gegsite, probably nurbs? WIP AFAIK.
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